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ALLMAN Digest - 5 Jun 1998 to 6 Jun 1998
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There are 10 messages totalling 271 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. Nautica (2)
2. Steve Earle -- Copperhead Road
3. Foxy Hotels
4. Radiators (ABB content)
5. Great Speckled Bird
6. fw: Great Woods, extra ticket, transportation
7. Bonnie Raitt? (2)
8. Steve Earle show--oops
Subject:
Nautica
Date:
Sat, 6 Jun 1998 07:30:43 -0500
From:
Brian Love
I was wondering if anyone was taping the Nautica shows later this month. If
so, please e-mail me.
By the way, the Plain Dealer has the opening act as Robert Bradley's
Blackwater Surprise.
Subject:
Re: Nautica
Date:
Sat, 6 Jun 1998 09:53:17 -0400
From:
Tom Ott
Brian Love wrote:
> I was wondering if anyone was taping the Nautica shows later this month.
Probably;)
Otter
Subject:
Re: Steve Earle -- Copperhead Road
Date:
Sat, 6 Jun 1998 11:15:48 +0000
From:
Paul Kaytes
ON 21 May 98 AT 8:05, Marsa Myers WROTE:
> > Steve Earle is indeed a great performer. To turn some peachers onto
> > his music before seeing him with the ABB, I am offering up a Steve
>
> Steve Earle is one of my all-time favorites..
Hi Marsa--
Nobody volunteered to administer the tree, but if you want a copy of
the show, give me a shout and I'll do one for you. It has Copperhead
Road on it.
Take care,
Paul
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Paul Kaytes pkaytes@worldnet.att.net
Production/Stage Management, Artpark & Co.
200 acres of visual and performing arts on the Niagara River Gorge
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Subject:
Re: Foxy Hotels
Date:
Fri, 5 Jun 1998 23:38:54 -0500
From:
Ron Rockhill
EatnApeach@AOL.COM wrote:
> Regaurding the hotel situation. I called the Daze inn, and they said
> they
> were booked for the friday and saturday. I stayed there for WSP for
> their NEw
> Years run, and damn was it crazy. The whole four days we never saw a
> maid or
> any sort of maintanence man. I guess they gave him that time off
> becuase they
> knew he would be in overtime when he came back. Every hand rail in
> the place
> was yanked down, and both elevators were broken, boy did we eat those
> words..."It will be a nice view from up on the ninth floor. At one
> point i
> think a guy set fire to the downstairs lobby...but the employees took
> it all
> in stride...The only other hotel right across the street that I know
> of is The
> Georgian Terrace...I got a room there, but it was 150 bucks or so,
> well worth
> it when you think that the longest part of the trip to the show is the
> hotel
> ride down...looked like a really nice place last time we were
> there...just
> thought that would help...The number to the Georgan Terrace is (404)
> 897-1991
> good luck to all...and hope to see lots of freaks there...
>
> I think that the Daze inn is sold out is a good sign....very good...
>
> blue skies...
> kevin
Yeah,
I'm stayin' at the Daze Inn across from the fox for Friday and Saturday
nights, I got a great rate of 49 dollaz a night. I CAN'T WAIT!!!
Jason
Subject:
Radiators (ABB content)
Date:
Sat, 6 Jun 1998 15:28:37 +0000
From:
Midnight Rider
Caught the Radiators last night in Ft. Worth. Towards the end of the
show during a "between songs" jam started on keyboard, Mountain Jam
broke out ... lasted about 3-4 minutes and got a few us in the crowd
whooping and hollering to grins from the band.
Tapers were in evidence ...
Midnight Rider
http://www.dfw.net/~richl
'everybody knows this is nowhere' .... Neil Young
Subject:
Re: Great Speckled Bird
Date:
Sat, 6 Jun 1998 18:03:51 -0400
From:
Daryl Mann
(Philip wrote:)
`For the record, the Great Speckled Bird was an *underground* newspaper
published in Atlanta in the late 60s, early 70s. It was a period when
mainstream newspapers for the most part ignored or were ignorant of the
burgeoning rock scene (not to mention the Vietnam antiwar movement, the
feminist movement and civil right movement). I can remember seeing copies
of the Bird in California in the early 70s and it was one of the better
street rags. A couple yrs ago, someone posted on this list a mention of an
URL for photos of the original Allman Bros. Band published by the Great
Speckled Bird'
There used to be a terrific `underground' paper out of Vancouver called
the Georgia Straight (in fact, I believe that Sir Bob Geldof wrote for it).
Anyway, I remember a feature on the Allmans after Duane died that had
quotes and exclusive photos. Man, I wish I could read that again. We used
to get it at the library here in town. In this particular article, I think
that either Berry or Dickey was rather `testy' with the writer.
The Straight also featured the misadventures of the great Canuck cartoon
hippie - Harold Hedd.
Daryl.
Subject:
fw: Great Woods, extra ticket, transportation
Date:
Sat, 6 Jun 1998 18:09:43 -0400
From:
Jeff Thompson
> From: Peter Alan Smith
> Date: Saturday, June 06, 1998 2:00 PM
>
> I'm wondering if you or anyone you know would be interested in trading a
> free ticket to the Allman Brothers Band show at Great Woods on June 19?
> 3 of my friends and I are stranded without transportation to the show
> and I have one extra ticket. It's inside the pavillion near the back.
>
>
>
> Anyway, if you can put the word out that I need transportation I would
> be most appreciative.
>
> Peachfully Yours,
>
> Peter Smith
> 24 Marine Road
> Boston, MA 02127
> 617-464-1548
> pierre@starpass.net
Subject:
Re: Bonnie Raitt?
Date:
Sat, 6 Jun 1998 16:11:36 -0700
From:
Michael Chilton <6500mdc@UCSBUXA.UCSB.EDU>
On Thu, 4 Jun 1998, B Anderson wrote:
> Now on another matter my ISP blues continued last week so I didn't get
> any responses from my Q on Bonnie Raitt singing with the male singer
> "Right Place, Wrong Time" its really driving me nuts not remembering who
> the guy is now!!! Please help a wandering Canadian mumblin to himself.
Hey Bruce,
I didn't respond earlier, because I thought someone
suggested a likely culprit. Could it be Dr. John,
The Night Tripper, by any chance? I think he may
have written the song (would probably be listed as
Mac Rebanek (sp?)) His version is the first I ever
heard, anyway.
Cheers,
Michael Chilton
NP: Ohio, Neil Young: Dayton 1983
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Subject:
Steve Earle show--oops
Date:
Sat, 6 Jun 1998 20:19:27 +0000
From:
Paul Kaytes
Well, I should be more careful when I hit the old reply button. I
didn't see when I replied to Marsa about the Steve Earle show, it was
going to the list...I offered up the show for a tree, nobody took me
up on it, a few folks replied privately, so I figured I could do a
few copies. Since my errant reply to Marsa, however, a few more
folks have replied, and I'm now in over my head....
But...
A true Brother has offered to get the show out to those who want to
hear some Steve Earle in preparation for the ABB shows, which
was my original intention, so stay tuned for further info.
Take care,
Paul
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Paul Kaytes pkaytes@worldnet.att.net
Production/Stage Management, Artpark & Co.
200 acres of visual and performing arts on the Niagara River Gorge
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Subject:
Re: Bonnie Raitt?
Date:
Sat, 6 Jun 1998 21:31:33 EDT
From:
Ras Fincher
In a message dated 98-06-06 20:01:25 EDT, B Anderson writes:
<< > Now on another matter my ISP blues continued last week so I didn't get
> any responses from my Q on Bonnie Raitt singing with the male singer
> "Right Place, Wrong Time" its really driving me nuts not remembering who
> the guy is now!!! Please help a wandering Canadian mumblin to himself. >>
That's B.B. King.. its from the "Air America" soundtrack.
Ras
Subject:
ALLMAN Digest - 6 Jun 1998 to 7 Jun 1998
Date:
Mon, 8 Jun 1998 00:03:29 -0400
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There are 8 messages totalling 229 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. Come and Go Blues (2)
2. No ABB- Other Ones tix @ Great Woods
3. ABB/Dead in the 90's (2)
4. DooDah Trees Tree Announcement
5. Butch On `Mt. Jam'
6. DooDah Help???
Subject:
Come and Go Blues
Date:
Sun, 7 Jun 1998 14:52:10 -0500
From:
Charles Mattera
Anyone have guitar tab for this?
Charlie
Subject:
Re: Come and Go Blues
Date:
Sun, 7 Jun 1998 16:27:31 EDT
From:
Omast1@AOL.COM
Cahrlie wrote:
>Anyone have guitar tab for this?
Better than the guitar tabs--why don't the Brothers break this one out? And
WASTED WORDS!!!!!! w/ Dickey on slide...and Done Somebody Wrong and a kick-
ass
cover of "Crossroads", and Jelly Jelly and Oh Pretty Woman!!!!!!
Is that too much too ask--is that soooo wrong???? (w/ thick NY accent... LOL)
Tony (the dreamer)
NP: ABB 6-25-91 London, UK (WOW)
Subject:
No ABB- Other Ones tix @ Great Woods
Date:
Sun, 7 Jun 1998 17:37:01 -0700
From:
Kevin Lane
After reading the great reviews of the Other Ones shows,I hate to do this, but I have
two tickets to sell for Great Woods show on 7/1. We're heading to Florida that week and
can't make it. Drop a note if interested.
Kevin L.
Subject:
ABB/Dead in the 90's
Date:
Sun, 7 Jun 1998 17:09:00 EDT
From:
GOBLER@SBMS01.MSRC.SUNYSB.EDU
Bros and Sis':
There been a few comments here and there about the DEAD
and ABB at the same show. Back in the early 90's (I'm almost
positive it was '91), when the Dead did their traditional summer
stadium tours of the East Coast, the ABB opened for the Dead
at Rich Stadium in Buffalo, NY. A good buddy of mine was at the
show. I remember he had the tape of the Dead's set and they did
a Scarlet->Sugar Mags. I suppose if someone had a Deadbase, they
could check the Buffalo shows with this in the set-list. Of coarse,
I don't think the Bros had a very long set, since they were opening.
Anyone out there attend this one? Have the ABB set on tape?
eap
chris gobler
ps got my Jones Beach tix! We'll have to set up a meeting place
Chris, Pete, Lana (?)
Subject:
DooDah Trees Tree Announcement
Date:
Sun, 7 Jun 1998 17:10:30 -0500
From:
The DooDah Man
Hey Now, Tape Traders.
DooDah Trees has FOUR trees that just opened. We're a digital-only tree,
but D leaves that would otherwise be D>A branches are *encouraged* to run
shrubs so the shows get to our analog brothers & sisters :)
Dead Forest, Tree #19
Grateful Dead
11.29.80
Alligator Alley Gym
Gainsville, FL
This three hour show will lift you up and tear you down!
This FOB Aud show is schweet as it gets...just enough audience to make it fun!
But not too much audience to take away form all this: set 1 is 1.25
hours...set 2 is 1.75 hours!
And the sound quality of the Cassette Master to DAT will freak you out!
More info: http://www2.netdoor.com/~kensorce/0019tape.htm
**STILL OPEN** Dead Forest, Tree #18
Grateful Dead
05.09.77
War Memorial Auditorium
Buffalo, NY
After burnin' down Cornell they destroyed the War Memorial Auditorium!
If you have 5.8.77 you'll definitely want 5.9.77!
The boys were on a roll...
...so come and get another classic show!
More info: http://www2.netdoor.com/~kensorce/0018tape.htm
**NEW FOREST** Jazzy Forest, Tree #20
Miracle Orchestra
1.30.98
This ain't the jazz your dad listened to!
The Miracle Orchestra fuses the harmonies of Jazz and Blues.
Add the lively spirit and tribal energy of "danceable" funk and ethnic musics.
Guitar, bass, drums, percussion, saxophone, trumpet, vocals...7 dudes
rippin' it!
More info: http://www2.netdoor.com/~kensorce/0020tape.htm
**NEW FOREST** Bluegrass Forest, Tree #21
String Cheese Incident
5.16.98
Stubb's BBQ
Austin, TX
Back by popular demand...Cheeseheads unite!
A TON of folks told me how much they enjoyed this band....and thanked me
for the turn-on.
Sooo, we opened a new forest just so we could do more of it...the Bluegrass
Forest is planted!
'Cause when all's said and done, I LOVE THESE GUYS, too :)
More info: http://www2.netdoor.com/~kensorce/0021tape.htm
National Forest, Tree #22
Zero
3.22.98
Chesters
Fayetteville, AK
This 3 set, 2 encore show is fat as it gets!
It ain't that Zero isn't superfine by themselves.
But throw in Earl Cate on Telecaster and Steve Pryor on Stratocaster...
...and you have one hell of a band!
More info: http://www2.netdoor.com/~kensorce/0022tape.htm
Branch or Leaf, Permanent (all future shows) or Temporary (this show only)
positions are available to all who come. To join, go to our web site (URL
below), take the link to DooDah Trees, scroll down to *The Jungle* and
follow the links.
--
Browse by our #1 Ranked site
http://www2.netdoor.com/~kensorce
--
With the help of God and two friends
Ken, the DooDah Man
Subject:
Butch On `Mt. Jam'
Date:
Sun, 7 Jun 1998 18:54:36 -0400
From:
Daryl Mann
All you lovers of `Mountain Jam' should check out Butch Trucks'
comments in the Hittin' The Web forum from this past weekend.
Daryl.
Subject:
Re: ABB/Dead in the 90's
Date:
Sun, 7 Jun 1998 21:13:46 EDT
From:
Omast1@AOL.COM
In a message dated 98-06-07 18:09:25 EDT, you write:
> Bros and Sis':
>
> There been a few comments here and there about the DEAD
> and ABB at the same show. Back in the early 90's (I'm almost
> positive it was '91), when the Dead did their traditional summer
> stadium tours of the East Coast, the ABB opened for the Dead
> at Rich Stadium in Buffalo, NY. A good buddy of mine was at the
> show. I remember he had the tape of the Dead's set and they did
> a Scarlet->Sugar Mags. I suppose if someone had a Deadbase, they
> could check the Buffalo shows with this in the set-list. Of coarse,
> I don't think the Bros had a very long set, since they were opening.
> Anyone out there attend this one? Have the ABB set on tape?
NO WAY did this happen--this was 7-16-90 and CSN opened for the Dead-
Tony
Subject:
DooDah Help???
Date:
Sun, 7 Jun 1998 19:57:55 PDT
From:
Heath Grossman
Any kind digital DooDah Trees members out there that can help out a
former analog DooDah member?? There's some good shows coming up that
I'd hate to miss. I'm a very reliable trader.
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of the soul"
- PLATO
"If you get confused, listen to the music play."
-------------------------------------------------------
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Subject:
ALLMAN Digest - 7 Jun 1998 to 8 Jun 1998 - Special issue
Date:
Mon, 8 Jun 1998 10:47:15 -0400
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ALLMAN Digest - 7 Jun 1998 to 8 Jun 1998 - Special issue
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There are 9 messages totalling 773 lines in this issue.
Topics in this special issue:
1. Great Speckled Bird
2. Steve Earle Preview Offer
3. help - beacon question!!
4. Fw: Abb (2)
5. Doo Dah Trees (no ABB)
6. ABB Flashback: another "Midnight Riders" review
7. DT trade (newbie help/no ABB)
8. 57 Channels, Monday thru Thursday
Subject:
Great Speckled Bird
Date:
Sun, 7 Jun 1998 14:57:34 PDT
From:
Kevin Zimka
Daryl,
The Georgia Straight is alive and still going strong in Vancouver. It has
become more main stream but still contains good CD, concert and movie reviews.
There is word of it expanding across Western Canada.
Interesting note, the 'Straight once printed instructions on how to grow pot
(back when it was a true "underground" paper). The editors were brought up on
criminal charges however were found not guilty ( my law school criminal
professor had us discussed this case).
KevinZ
NP: ABB 3/15/98 (I can still see Ron, Chris, and Jon dancin away)
Subject:
Steve Earle Preview Offer
Date:
Sun, 7 Jun 1998 22:21:03 -0700
From:
Michael Chilton <6500mdc@UCSBUXA.UCSB.EDU>
On Sat, 6 Jun 1998, Paul Kaytes wrote:
> Since my errant reply to Marsa, however, a few more
> folks have replied, and I'm now in over my head....
> But...
> A true Brother has offered to get the show out to those
> who want to hear some Steve Earle in preparation for the
> ABB shows, which was my original intention, so stay
> tuned for further info.
Peachniks,
I'm pitching in to give Paul a hand on this project. Since
I have B&Ps coming in and going out nearly every day, I'm
limiting this offer to you lucky folks that will be seeing
Steve open for The Brothers and would like a preview before
the shows. If that's you and you'd like to B&P for a copy
of the show please email me directly. High quality trades
will be considered in lieu of B&P, but please don't send
your whole list. A simple recommendation/description will
suffice. If you have any high quality shows by any of the
bands I've offered in the various tape offers I've posted
in the last month, I'd be interested in hearing about it.
I'll provide a B&P offer for this show to the list in general
next month. For the present, the offer is restricted to those
wanting to get a little preview before the shows. Thanks for
cooperating with me on this. And please join me in thanking
Paul for seeding this with his master copy. Folks, that's
rarely done and Paul's generousity should be acknowledged and
appreciated by all.
In Peach We Trust,
Michael Chilton
6500mdc@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu
NP: Couldn't Stand The Weather, SRV, Daytona '88 (thanks Chris!!!)
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Subject:
help - beacon question!!
Date:
Mon, 8 Jun 1998 00:39:20 -0500
From:
Cathy Reese
Hey, ya'll!
Listen, if you had to choose among a Beacon show from this year of March 7,
13, or 14, what would you pick?? As someone who was unable to attend any
of the Beacon shows, I am at a loss. Thanks for any advice! Cathy
Subject:
Fw: Abb
Date:
Mon, 8 Jun 1998 09:52:33 +0100
From:
Anthony LEWIS
Howdy Folks
The Guy Below is a dealer in Radio Shows....... and has the Beacon CDs for
$115 + postage........He Does not take plastic..........US Checks and Money
Orders only.
I have dealt with Him in the past.......He is a Good Guy.
I'm not Saying Anyone should Buy these...........I'm passing on
information......Following My post about CDR's of the Beacon
Broadcast.....A few people asked Me about finding Copies.......Well here is
a Copy.
Its all Up to You..........Your Call.
Tony Lewis.......London
1.1.74. ABB with John Lee.........HO Ho HO Ho !
----------
> From: David A. Tyson
> To: 'xax25@dial.pipex.com'
> Subject: RE: Abb
> Date: 08 June 1998 03:47
>
> Phone 843-821-1514
> Fax 843-832-8484
> DAVID TYSON
> 208 BARSHAY DRIVE
> SUMMERVILLE, SC 29483 USA
> Thanks,
> Dave
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Anthony LEWIS [SMTP:xax25@dial.pipex.com]
> Sent: Sunday, June 07, 1998 9:16 AM
> To: David A. Tyson
> Subject: Re: Abb
>
> Hi David
> Thanks for getting back to Me.........I have it ....
> Thanks...for $ 195
> So your price is much better......I should have waited !
> If You e mail Me your Phone No.........I'll post it up on the Allmans
> newsgroup for You........I would Imagine You will sell it
> Easy......Cheers......Tony
>
> ----------
> > From: David A. Tyson
> > To: 'xax25@dial.pipex.com'
> > Subject: RE: Abb
> > Date: 07 June 1998 12:25
> >
> > Hello, I have a copy for $115 + $5 air post.
> > DAVID TYSON
> > 208 BARSHAY DRIVE
> > SUMMERVILLE, SC 29483 USA
> > Thanks,
> > Dave
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Anthony LEWIS [SMTP:xax25@dial.pipex.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 1998 2:53 PM
> > To: dtyson@viperlink.net
> > Subject: Abb
> >
> > Hi David
> > Could You please give Me a price on the Album network
concert
> > show by the Allman Brothers from last Weekend.....2 Cds I think.
> > Obviously.....thats if You can get it........Thanks..........Tony
> > Lewis........London
> >
> >
>
Subject:
Doo Dah Trees (no ABB)
Date:
Sun, 7 Jun 1998 18:33:41 -0500
From:
Troy
Hey Everyone!
I just saw Ken's post regarding four of the latest trees he has. Now that
he has gone DAT only, I'm out. If there is a kind bro or sis who is on the
Dead Forest Trees 18 or 19 that can go DAT>analog, please contact me. I
would love to get these shows and have some stuff to trade. Most of what I
have is ABB and Mule, but there is more. Thanks for the help.
Later...
Troy
tbell@hiwaay.net
Subject:
Re: Fw: Abb
Date:
Mon, 8 Jun 1998 06:40:13 -0500
From:
donjoni@USIT.NET
At 09:52 AM 6/8/98 +0100, you wrote:
>Howdy Folks
>The Guy Below is a dealer in Radio Shows....... and has the Beacon CDs for
----------KeyWORD - dealer
From: David A. Tyson
----------------------APRaPro adder
Donnie
Subject:
ABB Flashback: another "Midnight Riders" review
Date:
Mon, 8 Jun 1998 09:06:04 EDT
From:
EltSpindel@AOL.COM
Hi,
Today's flashback is another review of the
"Midnight Riders" book.
Tomorrow and Wednesday: More "Midnight Riders"
stuff.
Eliot
****************************************
THE MACON TELEGRAPH
THE GOOD, THE BAD...
THE BROTHERS
FREEMAN OFFERS DEFINITIVE LOOK AT LEGENDARY ALLMAN BROTHERS
Sunday, February 19, 1995
Section: E
Page: 8
By Nick Russo
The Macon Telegraph
It's been almost 26 years since the Allman Brothers Band arrived in
Macon, forever changing the city, as well as the future of American
music.
But for some reason, until now, no one has written a definitive
biography of the band that pioneered Southern rock.
The long wait has finally been rewarded.
Scott Freeman's work is already familiar to many Middle Georgia readers.
He was a reporter at this newspaper from 1983-87 and wrote a sixpart
series on the Allman Brothers Band in 1984.
[ Note: I couldn't find these interviews in the library,
maybe someone else can. If so, I will type the
interviews up - Eliot]
Although the band refused to cooperate with this book, tapes from the
1984 interviews with the four surviving original members, as well as
recent interviews with former band members, roadies, Capricorn Records
employees, exwives, children and dozens of other people in Macon and in
the Allman Brothers organization, provided a wealth of source material.
Reinforced by meticulous research of court and police records, here and
elsewhere, Freeman has produced one of the best books ever written about
any rock band.
The story of the Allman Brothers Band might seem like familiar territory
to a lot of Macon readers, but he manages to break a lot of new ground,
embellishing the story with behind the scenes details and revealing
insights that keep it consistently entertaining.
Beginning with the troubled childhood years of Duane and Gregg Allman,
the book examines their early musical influences, bands and growth as
performers; Duane's emergence as an extraordinary session
guitarist; Phil Walden's involvement, which enabled Duane to assemble
the original band; the legendary Jacksonville jam; and the move to Macon
in April 1969.
At that point, the book takes on an added dimension, of local interest,
as it recounts a significant era in Macon history.
There's so much that many readers will remember or recognize: the
incredible early concerts, when the band began taking music and their
audience to places it had never been before; the Hippie Crash Pad on
College Street; the latenight acoustic jams in Rose Hill Cemetery; Mama
Louise and the H&H the first two studio albums; the Fillmore East
concerts and album, and the rise to national prominence; the Big House;
the triumphant homecoming at the pop festival in Byron; Duane's death;
the new sound, aided by Chuck Leavell; Macon's rise as the mecca of
Southern rock; the death of Berry Oakley, eerily similar to that of
Duane; the Gregg and Cher ``show''; the Scooter Herring trial; the demise
of Capricorn Records; and so much more, up to and including the band's
latest incarnation.
Freeman also takes a brutally candid look at the band's darker side,
with sordid details of excessive substance abuse, violent behavior,
personality clashes, failed marriages, arrests, court cases, the Dixie
Mafia connection and even a murder (of a bar owner by the band's road
manager.)
He pulls no punches, and few of the book's principal characters emerge
unscathed.
Freeman makes the book work on several levels.
As a devoted, longtime fan, he obviously understands the band and its
music, and what made it so original and successful.
As an accomplished slide guitarist, he provides incisive appraisals of
the music itself discussing specific solos, effects, instruments and
other ingredients that made so many Allman Brothers tunes especially
those on the first five albums so powerful. (He analyzes Duane's session
work at Muscle Shoals and with Eric Clapton during the Layla recordings
as well.)
Some readers might not care to know quite this much about who's playing
what licks on particular songs, but others, particularly musicians
and/or Duane fans, will find the details fascinating.
As a former resident of Macon, he's familiar with most of the people,
places and events he's writing about, and puts them in clear, historical
context.
And, as a first rate reporter and writer, he weaves a powerful narrative
that grips the reader and almost refuses to let go. (As he notes, the
Allman Brothers story already had ``all the elements of great drama love
and death and courage and betrayal and survival.'')
And, as a bonus, there's a thorough discography and four page list of
ABB related books and articles to pursue.
To steal a line from Lester Bangs (in a Rolling Stone review of the
first ABB album), Scott Freeman knows what he's writing about, feels it
deeply and communicates it very, very well.
``Midnight Riders'' is essential reading for anyone interested in the
Allman Brothers, or music, or Macon, and it will entertain a lot of
other readers as well.
Nick Russo is news editor of the Macon Telegraph. He first heard the
Allman Brothers Band play at the Macon City Auditorium in 1969.
//
Subject:
DT trade (newbie help/no ABB)
Date:
Mon, 8 Jun 1998 06:20:05 -0700
From:
matt cohen
Looking to obtain my first Derek Trucks show. Also looking to increase my collection of Duane shows. I have ABB, ARU, BT, DMB, Frogwings, GM, LoS, Phish, Santana, WSP to trade. Can anyone help me out?
Thanx
matt
Free web-based email, Forever, From anywhere!
http://www.mailexcite.com
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There are 17 messages totalling 507 lines in this issue.
Topics in this special issue:
1. 57 Channels: Peach TV!
2. ABB on ACL (Re: 57 Channels, Monday thru Thursday)
3. Extra Great Woods Tix 7/31
4. Tape Finder 6/8-6/14
5. Fw: Abb
6. reality sets in...see ya in Hot 'Lanta...
7. Dead/ABB & Mushrooms
8. Doritos.com/Edwin McCain
9. need 1 tix for charlotte 7/4 show
10. Arts Center
11. 9/16/71 Revisted folks...
12. Tinsley Ellis hits Biscuits and Blues in SF
13. `MYCOLOGY'
14. Question: Taper's dilemma-Shithead Alert! (2)
15. Dead/ABB in the 90's
16. Cream of the Crop from year to year
Subject:
57 Channels: Peach TV!
Date:
Mon, 8 Jun 1998 08:08:04 -0700
From:
Michael Chilton <6500mdc@UCSBUXA.UCSB.EDU>
Peachniks,
The RockOnTv site shows The Allman Brothers Band as the
guest on the week's Austin City Limits show (previously
broadcast).
Since PBS stations determine their own programming
schedules, check your local listings and/or call your
local affiliate.
In Peach We Trust,
Michael Chilton
NP: Deal, The Grateful Dead, Hollywood Paladium 8/6/71
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Subject:
ABB on ACL (Re: 57 Channels, Monday thru Thursday)
Date:
Mon, 8 Jun 1998 10:18:26 -0500
From:
Patrick Lehnherr
RockOnTv is also reporting ABB will be on Austin City Limits on this Saturday,
check local listings for times. This is a November 1995 performance. Too bad
our PBS station doesn't carry ACL :(
On 8 Jun 98, at 7:46, Michael Chilton wrote:
> Peachniks,
>
> Here are the highlights of this week's music
> related television programming, culled from
> the fabulous RockOnTv website.
Subject:
Extra Great Woods Tix 7/31
Date:
Mon, 8 Jun 1998 11:36:39 EDT
From:
Omast1@AOL.COM
Mornin' Peachniks---
below is a little info on some tix a pal of mine is trying to unload----she
has no computer , so if you are interested, you can call her and leave a
message---Call her please--do not reply to me---
Muchas gracias
Tony
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------
The Great Woods seats are in section 1 ---row w ----seats 18 and 19
which are in the middle. Her name is Fern MacDonald and the
phone is 860-658-7400 . Date of concert is July 31.
They cost her 38.50 each --with 4.75 service charge total
of 43.25 each --2 would be 86.50 --------she wants ONLY a postal money
order ----but you could give her name and phone # and let whomever buys
them settle that -----She did say she'd settle for $80 --
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Subject:
Tape Finder 6/8-6/14
Date:
Mon, 8 Jun 1998 12:18:07 -0400
From:
Peter Sahlin
Hey now!
Here's this week's Tape Finder. Please read through it and, if you have any
of the shows for which people are searching, get in touch with them; this
thing will only work if we make it work!
ANALOG
Brute 5/9/98 Chastain Park, Atlanta, Chris Creel, Ljkh51a@prodigy.com
Dead, 4.5.91, Atlanta, GA Omni; Sean Ryan; sryan3@mindspring.com
GD 10-21-83 Worcester Erick Ziglar erickz@cillnet.com
Gov't Mule 11/9/97 Ludlow's, Columbus, OH; Cory Munro; bluesman@hwcn.org
Gov't Mule 5/15/98 Big Ballroom, Syracuse, NY; Cory Munro;bluesman@hwcn.org
GSW 6-25-97 Paradise, Boston; Eve Klein; elk15@columbia.edu
LoS 9-26-97 Irving Plaza, NYC; Eve Klein; elk15@columbia.edu
Phish, 6/11/94, Red Rocks. Morrison, CO, Josh Sacks, DPYX83C@Prodigy.com
Phish, 6/25/94, Nautica, Clevland, Ohio, Josh Sacks,DPYX83C@Prodigy.com
Phish, 8/12/89, Burlington, VT. Josh Sacks, DPYX83C@Prodigy.com
String Cheese, 5/11/98, 5 Points Music Hall, Birmingham, Chris Creel,
Ljkh51a@prodigy.com
The Hellcasters anything phenson425@aol.com
The Renegade Saints; any; Ryan; grnebean@ix.netcom.com
WSP 3-29-96 Columbia SC Erick Ziglar erickz@cillnet.com
WSP 5/2/98 Memphis, Chris Creel, ljkh51a@prodigy.com
wsp 6-7-96 Warfield Theater Erick Ziglar erickz@cillnet.com
DAT
The Renegade Saints; any; Ryan; grnebean@ix.netcom.com
Tape Finder is a weekly service to help tape traders track down shows they
want. To be included, put together a list of tapes (no more than 3, please)
in the format below FOR EACH SHOW and send it to me at
psahlin@targetsite.com. Make your subject either "Tape Finder Analog" or
"Tape Finder DAT". If you don't specify the desired medium in your subject,
I'll assume you're looking for analogs. Here's the format:
Band, date, city or venue (if known); Your Name; Your email
And here's an example:
SUBJECT: Tape Finder Analog
WSP 1-2-98 Fox, Atlanta; Pete Sahlin; psahlin@targetsite.com
moe. 9-7-97 New Haven; Pete Sahlin; psahlin@targetsite.com
Happy hunting and, as always, please help each other out!
Peace,
Pete
Subject:
Re: Fw: Abb
Date:
Mon, 8 Jun 1998 12:27:42 EDT
From:
Skaidawg@AOL.COM
In a message dated 98-06-08 05:16:18 EDT, you write:
<< The Guy Below is a dealer in Radio Shows....... and has the Beacon CDs for
$115 + postage........He Does not take plastic..........US Checks and Money
Orders only. >>
'
$115??????? <> Are you TOTALLY DE-
RANGED????
Subject:
reality sets in...see ya in Hot 'Lanta...
Date:
Mon, 8 Jun 1998 13:46:23 -0400
From:
Ron Everhart
...and happily so, 'cause my Friday night Fox tix came today! Heee-wack,
thanks and a big ol' smooch to Lana, Rowland, Dave, and everyone else...
I was out cycling yesterday, listening to I-can't-remember-which-show, and
Hot 'Lanta came on. I'm a little embarrassed to say this, but we're all
friends here, eh? My eyes filled with tears when I thought about what a
moment it's gonna be when the house lights go down and the band cranks that
tune up at the Fox in front of a packed, screaming house in HOT LANTA!!!!!
Now how about someone posts some historical and other info on the Fox like
for the beacon?
BTW, Friday, tickets went on sale for John Fogerty (the BEST show I saw last
year was -- most unexpectedly -- John Fogerty, in pretty much a dead heat
with one of the Mule shows I saw)(yeah, I now this is the ABB list and hat
verges on heresy - so stone me! he said, jokingly). There was a driving
rainstorm, and when they held the lottery for that location, I had a 100%
chance of winning it. I got front row, slightly to the side (we'll be taking
our neighbors as our guests, how the hell could we not share out good
fortune), the guy behind me, who'd also seen JF last year, got 2nd row
center. Funny thing was, the two women directly in line behind us spent the
last 15 minutes before on-sale absolutely RAVING about how normal people can
never get decent tickets to ANYthing because of, well, you know...
So Pat Lehnherr, let's hear it, buddy, WHY BE NORMAL???
have a great week everyone,
ron e.
Subject:
Doritos.com/Edwin McCain
Date:
Mon, 8 Jun 1998 12:38:41 -0800
From:
Denise Halbe
Like Doritos with your Frogwings?
Find the platinum [guitar] pick and win a private
party/performance by one of several bands-
most notably Edwin McCain Band!
I'm sitting here with a bonafied Ed McCain pick now....
too bad it ain't platinum tho....
Whassis 'Misguided Roses'??
Is that a new Edwin McCain release?
~from the cabin on the hill
I((((O))))I((((O))))I((((O))))I((((O)))I(((O)))I((((O)
Subject:
need 1 tix for charlotte 7/4 show
Date:
Mon, 8 Jun 1998 13:25:53 -0700
From:
Rebecca Fuller
anybody got an extra or know where i might be able to scrounge one up?
-becca
Subject:
Arts Center
Date:
Mon, 8 Jun 1998 16:38:11 EDT
From:
Penn Nelson
Hey, anyone goin to the Garden State Art Center show, June 30???
Just wonderin
-Neil
Subject:
Re: 9/16/71 Revisted folks...
Date:
Mon, 8 Jun 1998 15:06:14 -0500
From:
Peter D Fetzek
All your tapes are done and in the mail.
enjoy,
pete
Subject:
Tinsley Ellis hits Biscuits and Blues in SF
Date:
Mon, 8 Jun 1998 14:13:21 -0800
From:
Denise Halbe
June 12 & 13.
I confess to being quite unfamiliar but since he's
playing at one of my favorite blues clubs it would seem a
good time to check him out.
I can't recall what's been said about him-
Was it thumbs up?
becca? Jon? ....
I have a couple 2 for 1 dinner coupons ...
mmmm mmm those biscuits sure are tasty!
~from the cabin on the hill
I((((O))))I((((O))))I((((O))))I((((O)))I(((O)))I((((O)
Subject:
`MYCOLOGY'
Date:
Mon, 8 Jun 1998 17:28:10 -0400
From:
Daryl Mann
Tomorrow sees the issue of the W&W-era anthology `MYCOLOGY'. Normally
I would always show my support for the band but they won't be getting
it here. Mixing a 1970 live track with nineties music? What's that all
about? I'd like to know who the brain surgeon was that thought that up!
Surely there must be an outtake from the `EVENING WITH' sets that they
could have tacked onto the disc, `One Way Out' comes to mind. Or even
better, a `High Falls' from Beacon '97. Now *that* I could dig.
Strange...don't you think? The last thing I would want is to buy the
disc for the Atlanta Pop cut only to see the entire 1970 gig get issued
down the road.
Nice title, though. :-)
Daryl.
Subject:
Question: Taper's dilemma-Shithead Alert!
Date:
Mon, 8 Jun 1998 14:51:45 -0800
From:
Denise Halbe
I recently recieved a splendid master analog of
GA&F 2/17/98 at the Crest Theater Sacramento.
I came to me on 2 nineties. The second tape has only the last
three songs of the GA&F show- the rest is fill.
I have some options here I'm and I'm looking for input
on this oh-so-serious dilemma.
Here' the five options as I see it:
1) I chopped out just about all of applause between the last number and
the encore [there was ALOT] so the show WILL FIT on a 100-
EXCEPT with These Days getting cut
at the end of the A side and resuming on the B side.
2) Or If I restart These Days on B form the beginning -
[letting that precious few minutes go to waste on the end of side A]
then the last minute of Statesboro Blues gets cut off !!
3) OR it would fit comfortably on a 110.
But I've heard negative views on extra long tapes...?
4) Or it could be on two 60's [?] Can one obtain good 60's easily?
5) Or just leave it as is with only the last three songs on the second ninety
and the remaining 70ish% fill.
So, taper afficianados- how would you call it??
Inquiring shitheads want to know!
Thanks-
Denise
~from the cabin on the hill
I((((O))))I((((O))))I((((O))))I((((O)))I(((O)))I((((O)
Subject:
Re: Question: Taper's dilemma-Shithead Alert!
Date:
Mon, 8 Jun 1998 15:56:25 -0700
From:
Chris Brown
One thing that someone did on one of my GA&F shows (West Palm Beach) was to
put on an earlier GA&F show (complete show) from Japan during the ealiy
eighties, if I rememeber right. So it was like getting a bonus.
Chris Brown
>I recently recieved a splendid master analog of
>GA&F 2/17/98 at the Crest Theater Sacramento.
>I came to me on 2 nineties. The second tape has only the last
>three songs of the GA&F show- the rest is fill.
>
>I have some options here I'm and I'm looking for input
>on this oh-so-serious dilemma.
Hiebert Library
Fresno Pacific University
1717 S. Chestnut Ave.
Fresno, CA 93702
(209) 453-2087
(209) 453-2004 FAX
Subject:
Dead/ABB in the 90's
Date:
Mon, 8 Jun 1998 18:54:00 EDT
From:
GOBLER@SBMS01.MSRC.SUNYSB.EDU
Bros and Sis':
OK. So I was wrong. The ABB didn't open for the Dead in
the 90's at Rich Stadium. Good to see folks out there with the
references to check these things. I guess I was remembering CSN
opening for them. Another cool combo.
But how's this for a cool combo. ABB with Phish and Blues
Travlers at Laguna Seca Daze, summer of ???? I'm sure somebody
knows. 199? I think it was 1993. Anyway.......
EAP
Chris Gobler
Subject:
Cream of the Crop from year to year
Date:
Mon, 8 Jun 1998 17:23:41 -0700
From:
Chris Brown
Okay..here's the deal..I want to take this question to my private mail
first..so as not to clog up the list..so if want to offer your two cents
worth on this question e-mail me privately at cbrown@fresno.edu. I'll
compile the information and post it next Monday next week. I have been
spending the last few weeks listening to all my tapes (including some real
bad 80s shows), and I thought this might be interesting to see what you all
think. This could take a long time to answer.
I have including a form to use to make things easier.
=============================Cut Here=========================
The question: What is the ONE best live show that the Allman's
played for each year?
(I including the years from 1968-1997, the
years that they weren't together ...please skip them..or better
yet, let me know theat they weren't together so I can get it
straight in my head.)
1968:
1969:
1970:
1971:
1972:
1973:
1974:
1975:
1976:
1977:
1978:
1979:
1980:
1981:
1982:
1983:
1984:
1985:
1986:
1987:
1988:
1989:
1990:
1991:
1992:
1993:
1994:
1995:
1996:
1997:
===============================================================
EAP,
Chris Brown
Subject:
ALLMAN Digest - 8 Jun 1998
Date:
Tue, 9 Jun 1998 00:02:32 -0400
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Date:
Tue, 9 Jun 1998 00:02:32 -0400
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There are 5 messages totalling 115 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. Dead/ABB & Mushrooms
2. reality sets in...see ya in Hot 'Lanta...
3. `MYCOLOGY' (2)
4. Looking for HOT '79 ABB
Subject:
Re: Dead/ABB & Mushrooms
Date:
Mon, 8 Jun 1998 20:32:44 EDT
From:
Benning@AOL.COM
In a message dated 98-06-08 15:20:13 EDT, you write:
<<
Before the topic of the two bands fade away, the idea of making this a
Dick's Pick is a grate idea. To accelerate that, how much of this is
available on DAT. Would anyone be able to splice these shows onto a DAT
or
>>
Kirk West and Dick L. have talked about the idea I think...hope
Subject:
Re: reality sets in...see ya in Hot 'Lanta...
Date:
Mon, 8 Jun 1998 17:47:12 -0800
From:
Jon Rochmis
My Fox tix came today! Yee-haw! Oh boy am I gonna get deaf!
Thanks Lana, Thanks Dave, Thanks pahilbert for buyin' all my beers! LOL
Any word on a 5th show, or did that pass me by in all my YOU-phoria?
EAP,
Jon.
Subject:
Re: `MYCOLOGY'
Date:
Mon, 8 Jun 1998 20:16:33 -0500
From:
Patrick Lehnherr
On 8 Jun 98 at 17:28, someone wrote:
> Tomorrow sees the issue of the W&W-era anthology `MYCOLOGY'.
The last thing I would want is to buy
> the
> disc for the Atlanta Pop cut only to see the entire 1970 gig get
> issued down the road.
Now normally, I don't buy "greatest hits" CDs, or even anthologies of
a band I really like, because I already have everything they've put
out. That applies with all but one song on Mycology, that exception
being the Atl. Pop cut.
In this case, though, I'm breaking with tradition. I ordered the CD,
but doubt I'll ever listen to it. I may dub the Atl. Pop cut (Every
hungry woman?) as filler on several of my ABB tapes, but I won't
listen to the CD.
"SO, Pat....whay the hell are you buying then?", someone so astutely
asks.
Because I look at my tape collection, and I see some spectacular
music...music that affects my life, gives me extreme joy and
happiness...and I realize that the boys that make this music didn't
get a damn dime from any of it. Because of their generosity, I have
incredible music from '69 through the recent Beacon run, at no
benifit to the Brothers.
The least I can do is shell out $15 for their CD. I'll probably end
up dubbing the ATl. Pop tune and donating the disc to the library,
like I did with the other Greatest Hits CD with the denim like cover.
Regards,
Pat
Subject:
Looking for HOT '79 ABB
Date:
Mon, 8 Jun 1998 20:34:00 EDT
From:
GOBLER@SBMS01.MSRC.SUNYSB.EDU
Bros' and Sis':
As a long time fan of the ENLIGHTENED ROUGES album, I've
always wondered what this era of live shows was like. The 1979
tour looked pretty large and had a nice sampling of songs off
the ROUGES album.
I have and would trade 3/14, 3/20, and 3/22 from the Beacon,
as well as the Mule Dose premier show from 3/98 at Irving Plaza.
Anybody got any crispy '79s out there?!?
eap
Chris Gobler
Subject:
Re: `MYCOLOGY'
Date:
Mon, 8 Jun 1998 21:37:37 EDT
From:
Spills@AOL.COM
Well said, Pat. We must beware the dark side of tape trading. " Look at all
the ABB tapes I have, and I never gave them boys one red cent of my parent's
hard earned money. Ain't I somethin'." Bob in Chicagoland
On Mon, 8 Jun 1998, Denise Halbe posed a question and said:
> Here' the five options as I see it:
> 3) OR it would fit comfortably on a 110.
> But I've heard negative views on extra long tapes...?
> 5) Or just leave it as is with only the last three songs on
the second ninety and the remaining 70ish% fill.
>
> So, taper afficianados- how would you call it??
Denise,
In my view, unless you are 100% sure you are never going to make
copies of something in your collection for others it is of the
highest importance to maintain the integrity of whatever material
you acquire. Once you chop stuff, everyone after you gets the chop.
If it's strictly for your personal enjoyment, do whatever feels
right (though your heirs may curse your short-sightedness some day
if you compromise your legacy).
This means, in short, that of the five possible solutions you posed
only the above two do nothing to change the show. It's bothersome
to have the tail end of a show on a second tape, so your best bet is
using a 110.
110's (actually, anything longer than a 90) had a bad rep at one time
(it was alledged that the tape stock used was thinner, easier to get
caught up in your deck, etc) but that problem seems to have been re-
solved. Most Dead tapers I know routinely used TDK 110's for the 2nd
sets (and many used them for first sets, too-- I'm trying to stifle
the urge to make a crack about 55 min first sets here and not having
much success), and I've never heard of a problem with them.
I greatly prefer Maxell to TDK, but the only Maxell XLII 110's I ever
bought were pretty crappy. At least 4 or 5 of the 8 I bought were
defective. They might not even make them anymore (Maxell 110's, that
is) for all I know. If they don't make them, of course, you shouldn't
use them.
So, in conclusion, go with the 110. Using 60's might do the trick, but
you'll forever be dealing with people sending you 90's for a copy. Go
with the 110 and they'll be forced to cooperate to get the whole show.
Subject:
Re: Question: Taper's dilemma-Shirthead Alert!
Date:
Tue, 9 Jun 1998 06:35:08 EDT
From:
Wonwayout@AOL.COM
In a message dated 98-06-09 00:56:52 EDT, 6500mdc@UCSBUXA.UCSB.EDU writes:
<< I greatly prefer Maxell to TDK, but the only Maxell XLII 110's I ever
bought were pretty crappy. At least 4 or 5 of the 8 I bought were
defective. They might not even make them anymore (Maxell 110's, that
is) for all I know. If they don't make them, of course, you shouldn't
use them. >>
Maxell still makes the metal 110s. Available through Terrapin Tapes.
Gary
Subject:
ABB Flashback: More on "Midnight Riders"-part 1
Date:
Tue, 9 Jun 1998 07:45:22 EDT
From:
EltSpindel@AOL.COM
Hi,
Today's flashback is an inside look behind the
writing of "Midnight Riders" (including some
remarks from Bert Holman).
The article is somewhat long, so I will divide
it into two parts and post part two tomorrow.
Eliot
****************************************
THE MACON TELEGRAPH
QUITE A RIDE
Sunday, February 19, 1995
Section: E
Page: 1
By Dan Maley
The Macon Telegraph
For Scott Freeman the rock music fan, a 1984 meeting with Allman
Brothers Band guitarist Dickey Betts was a brush with greatness.
For Scott Freeman the journalist, it was a valuable face to face encounter
with one of rock's most elusive characters and a seed of insight that
would grow into a book a decade later.
At the time, Freeman was a reporter for The Macon Telegraph. He was
working on a series of stories on the band, then on indefinite hiatus.
He and photographer William Berry had driven to Bradenton, Fla., for an
interview with Betts, the writer and singer of the Allman Brothers' 1973
hit, ``Ramblin' Man.''
During the interview, something happened that Freeman will never forget.
Betts let Freeman, an amateur guitarist, play his Les Paul electric
guitar. The future member of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame showed
Freeman how to play ``In Memory of Elizabeth Reed,'' his own jazzy
composition and one of the Allman Brothers' signature songs.
``It's odd,'' Freeman said recently. ``When you have great experiences
that are burned in your memory, you usually don't have a photographer
there.''
Freeman tape-recorded his interview with Betts in 1984, as he did
interviews with the other three surviving original members of the Allman
Brothers; singer/keyboardist Gregg Allman, drummer Jaimoe Johnson and
drummer Butch Trucks. Those tapes came in handy again in 1992, when
Freeman began work on his first book.
``Midnight Riders: The Story of the Allman Brothers Band'' appeared in
bookstores across the country last week. Freeman's publisher, Little,
Brown & Company, has lots of experience selling books on celebrities: It
also published O.J. Simpson's recent best seller, ``I Want to Tell
You.''
---Doors were shut
By the time Freeman set out to write his book, he discovered that doors
that had been open in 1984 had been shut tight since. The band, which
reunited in 1989, refused to cooperate on Freeman's terms and even
distributed a letter urging potential sources not to talk to him.
Still, Freeman found sources. In addition to people who had been
associated with the band, he found magazine articles, newspaper stories,
police records and album liner notes. Court records alone provided a
wealth of information Freeman read thousands of pages relating to dozens
of bankruptcy, divorce and criminal cases.
``They were certainly a very litigious group,'' he said.
And he still had those tapes from 1984.
The result is 343 pages that flesh out one of the most dramatic stories
in rock 'n' roll, the outline of which is known to anybody who has
played air guitar and/or lived in Macon.
There's the fairhaired brothers, Duane and Gregg Allman, who grew up in
Nashville and Daytona Beach and discovered the blues while hanging out
on the wrong side of the tracks. There's Phil Walden, Otis Redding's
former manager, who sought out Duane Allman after hearing him play
guitar on a Wilson Pickett record. Walden encouraged Allman to form a
band, which moved to Macon in 1969 and became the foundation of Capricorn
Records.
There's the triumph of ``At Fillmore East,'' the live 1971 album that
was a break through for the band, followed by the tragedy of Duane
Allman's death in a motorcycle wreck later that year. After bass player
Berry Oakley died in eerily similar circumstances a year later, there
seemed no hope for the Allman Brothers Band to continue. Yet with new
personnel the band bounced back higher than anyone expected, selling
more records and playing to bigger crowds than ever before.
There's Gregg Allman's unlikely entry into the celebrity spotlight via
his marriage to Cher and his embarrassing role in a 1976 drug trial.
There's failed albums, acrimonious breakups and the band's recent
resurgence.
Add groupies, murder, Jimmy Carter's presidential campaign, Eric
Clapton, the ``Dixie Mafia'' and even more drugs, and you've got a story
capable of engrossing even readers with only a casual interest in the
band. The sheer number of references to Macon people and places is
enough to fuel local dinner conversations for months.
--- Only the second Allman book
Despite the compelling elements of the Allman Brothers' story, Freeman's
is only the second book on the band, according to his bibliography. The
first was a 1976 publication that Freeman described as a coffeetable
picture book.
Perhaps others were daunted by the band's distrust of journalists,
which, according to ``Midnight Riders,'' dates back at least to 1971,
when Rolling Stone magazine published an unflattering profile of the
band as a bunch of cocaine snorting hicks, including it in the same issue
as its obituary for Duane Allman.
The official response of the Allman Brothers Band to Freeman's book is
``no comment,'' according to Bert Holman, who has been manager of the
band since 1991. Still, Holman elaborated somewhat.
``The book was not written with our input, cooperation or
verification,'' said Holman, who had not read ``Midnight Riders.''
``He came to us and said, `I want you to tell me everything. I want you
to give me access to your lives, and I'm not going toshow you what I
write and I'm not going to let you participate economically.' ''
``We wanted editorial approval and to participate economically,'' Holman
said. ``If someone's going to put out one of our records, we want to
take part economically and have some artistic control. ... It's not so
much sour grapes, it's business and it's our life story. We said, `What
are you offering us?' He said, `Nothing.' We threw up our hands.''
Holman questioned the worth of a book that seemed to dwell on the drug
use and checkered love lives of the band members,especially considering
the feelings of their families. He also doubted the reliability of
Freeman's sources and resented the tendency of writers to dwell on the
Allman Brothers' past, ignoring the ``impact and validity'' of the
current version of the band.
//
TO BE CONTINUED
Subject:
querying a few things...
Date:
Tue, 9 Jun 1998 13:19:46 +0100
From:
Jules Fothergill
Morning all...
Just wondering... does anyone know if there is a complete version of the Mountain Jam from 12/31/70
out there? The version I have is cut about 10 minutes in, but up until then is really cool. Anyway I
was quite surprised at that review of Midnight Riders (I know there's more to come but...) 'coz I
thought Scott Freeman said some pretty nice things about the (then recent) incarnation of the band.
I'm surprised he didn't say more bad stuff about the band given how little help they gave him. Talk
about labour of love... Well I know some folks don't like the book and it's not all peaches and
cream etc. but it kinda gets you interested.
Anyway Jules' cool album of the week suggestion is Miles Davis "In A Silent Way" - they get a nice
groove going :-)
bye!
Jules
Subject:
From Hittin' the Web's Forum
Date:
Tue, 9 Jun 1998 09:30:45 -0400
From:
Lana Michelizzi
Mornin' swwet family,
I was out all last week doing HAHT stuff, am hopelessly behind in reading
email, but thought I'd share this from the Forum with you:
Original Message:
Posted by: Bum in Boston (chris_robinson@iacnet.com )
Date posted: Thu May 28 12:30:21 1998
Subject: Summer Songs
Message:
Hello Mr. Trucks. First of all I must say it is very cool of you to
participate in this forum. Your music is a constant presence in my life
through good and bad times.
Thank You! Question: Is there any chance of bringing back Les Brers and or
a full Mt. Jam this summer? I guess what I'm really asking is do you guys
have a
process you follow to come up with set lists or do you create set lists
based on whatever floats your boat at the time? Thanks for reading and
whatever you all
choose to play I'll be loving it at Great Woods this summer. Chris
Robinson...Bum in Boston
Previous reply
Reply:
Subject: Summer Songs
Reply Posted by: Butch Trucks
Organization: ABB
Date Posted: Sat Jun 6 12:30:46 1998
Message:
Thanks for the thoughts. Les Brers is definitely a possibility. It is one
of my favorite jam songs and we have talked about bringing it back. You
must undersatnd that
Mountain Jam is not a song. It is a jam that developed over 100's of gigs
and afternoon jams and was unique to that group. If we were to do another
one now it
really wouldn't be the same at all. We are starting to develop a few things
on Jessie and High Falls that may turn into a MJ type of extension. We'll
just have to wait
and see.
take care and know that you are loved ...
Lana
---------------------------------------------------------------*
Lana Michelizzi www.haht.com
Operations Manager Phone: 919.786.5137
HAHT Software, Inc. Fax: 919.786.5115
4200 Six Forks Rd.
Raleigh, NC 27609
Subject:
Re: From Hittin' the Web's Forum
Date:
Tue, 9 Jun 1998 09:35:35 -0400
From:
Mike Pistone
Wow! I can just imagine Oteil getting into that bass grove on Les Bres
right now. I think everybody knows what part I am refering to... right
after the drum and guitar intro... right as it kicks into the song out of
the 10 minute intro...
Last night I was listening to the 3/7/98 Liz Reed drum/Bass solo on my
headphones and it was amazing. These are the high quality full-ear sony
headphones so you can hear every note. This guy just blows me away
everytime I hear him. I was trying to figure out this one riff he was
playing and there was one note that escaped me (I am a pretty good bass
player and I also have a knack for transcribing songs). After about 15
minutes I figured out it was an chord that was played so perfectly it
sounded like a single note. I think it was Bass Player mag. that
compared him to a young Jaco. That pretty much sums it up. I loved the
brothers music before Oteil and Jack joined but they have really added
something special to the mix. Nothing against Warren & Woody, Mule is
also one of my favorite bands... Am I just rambling on now? or does
anybody know what I am taking about?
-Mike
-------------------------------------------------------------
Mike Pistone pistone@eurekanet.com
Systems/Network Administrator ph: 740-593-5052 x106
Eureka Networks, Ltd. fx: 740-594-3632
On Tue, 9 Jun 1998, Lana Michelizzi wrote:
> Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 09:30:45 -0400
> From: Lana Michelizzi
> To: ALLMAN@NETSPACE.ORG
> Subject: From Hittin' the Web's Forum
>
> Mornin' swwet family,
>
> I was out all last week doing HAHT stuff, am hopelessly behind in reading
> email, but thought I'd share this from the Forum with you:
>
>
>
> Original Message:
>
> Posted by: Bum in Boston (chris_robinson@iacnet.com )
> Date posted: Thu May 28 12:30:21 1998
> Subject: Summer Songs
> Message:
> Hello Mr. Trucks. First of all I must say it is very cool of you to
> participate in this forum. Your music is a constant presence in my life
> through good and bad times.
> Thank You! Question: Is there any chance of bringing back Les Brers and or
> a full Mt. Jam this summer? I guess what I'm really asking is do you guys
> have a
> process you follow to come up with set lists or do you create set lists
> based on whatever floats your boat at the time? Thanks for reading and
> whatever you all
> choose to play I'll be loving it at Great Woods this summer. Chris
> Robinson...Bum in Boston
>
> Previous reply
>
> Reply:
>
> Subject: Summer Songs
> Reply Posted by: Butch Trucks
> Organization: ABB
> Date Posted: Sat Jun 6 12:30:46 1998
> Message:
> Thanks for the thoughts. Les Brers is definitely a possibility. It is one
> of my favorite jam songs and we have talked about bringing it back. You
> must undersatnd that
> Mountain Jam is not a song. It is a jam that developed over 100's of gigs
> and afternoon jams and was unique to that group. If we were to do another
> one now it
> really wouldn't be the same at all. We are starting to develop a few things
> on Jessie and High Falls that may turn into a MJ type of extension. We'll
> just have to wait
> and see.
>
>
> take care and know that you are loved ...
>
> Lana
> ---------------------------------------------------------------*
> Lana Michelizzi www.haht.com
> Operations Manager Phone: 919.786.5137
> HAHT Software, Inc. Fax: 919.786.5115
> 4200 Six Forks Rd.
> Raleigh, NC 27609
>
Subject:
Best of Beacon CD Update.
Date:
Tue, 9 Jun 1998 09:43:06 -0400
From:
Mike Pistone
Well I think I will have a setlist completed by next monday. It is finals
week so I am swamped until thursday. Most requests seem to from 3/7 or
3/14.... Aren't there any other shows that people want to see included....
I think I am going to put in the acoustic set that included Hideaway since
that was a special/rare moment. Also, the acoustic Liz Reed, wich I am
yet to hear....
Do we want this to be 1 or 2 CD legnths?
Also, on the DAT vs Tape master topic... I am going to try to get all of
the songs on DAT and make the master CD off of DAT to make the DATHeads
happy. Personaly I can't tell the difference with a live show, BUT
obviously other people can. If I can manage to get all the shows on DAT
it will be a totally digital CD, if not I might have to mix in a few
analog songs. I have some processing software that eliminates the tape
hiss when transfering to CD so tapes will sound great anyway. This
software also cleans up LP's when transfered to CD. It completely removes
any of the static, hissing, and pops that "pop" up on some LPs. I'v
transfered some old Jazz 45's that are out of print onto CD and it sounds
line something that Blue Note just re-issued... :)
-Mike
-------------------------------------------------------------
Mike Pistone pistone@eurekanet.com
Systems/Network Administrator ph: 740-593-5052 x106
Eureka Networks, Ltd. fx: 740-594-3632
Subject:
Austin City Limits in the tri state area...
Date:
Tue, 9 Jun 1998 10:12:05 -0400
From:
chard31
Greetings B&S,
Just wanted to remind everyone in the tri state area
that ACL is broadcast on:
Ch. 21 at midnight on Wed night...
Enjoy and as usual...
peachness...
>The RockOnTv site shows The Allman Brothers Band as the
>guest on the week's Austin City Limits show (previously
>broadcast).
>
>Since PBS stations determine their own programming
>schedules, check your local listings and/or call your
>local affiliate.
>RockOnTv is also reporting ABB will be on Austin City Limits on this Saturday,
>check local listings for times. This is a November 1995 performance. Too bad
>our PBS station doesn't carry ACL :(
Another quality email message
from the mind of:
chard31@pipeline.com
Subject:
Phil Collins (!)
Date:
Tue, 9 Jun 1998 11:42:30 -0400
From:
Daryl Mann
A while back I read the late Ray Coleman's bio of Phil Collins. Apparently
Phil became quite friendly with Eric Clapton during the late '70's and
early '80's. Anyway, one day when Phil was visiting Slowhand, the guitarist
made the drummer/vocalist sit down and listen to all of `LAYLA' while Eric
delivered a passionate, drunken dissertation on the seminal work.
Oh, to have been a fly on the wall at that listening session! BTW, Phil's
Big Band is at Nautica the night before the Brothers arrive. Sure would like
to see Collins on `True Gravity'. :-)
Daryl.
NP: `2001 Jam' - Phish 12/06/96
Subject:
ALLMAN Digest - 9 Jun 1998 - Special issue
Date:
Tue, 9 Jun 1998 14:48:17 -0400
From:
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Subject:
ALLMAN Digest - 9 Jun 1998 - Special issue
Date:
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There are 12 messages totalling 505 lines in this issue.
Topics in this special issue:
1. Maxell vs. TDK (5)
2. Revival
3. ABB background music
4. From Hittin' the Web's Forum
5. ABB coffee table book? (2)
6. My soul's bein' MYCOLOGICIZED
7. Best of Beacon CD Update.
Subject:
Maxell vs. TDK
Date:
Tue, 9 Jun 1998 08:43:49 -0700
From:
matt cohen
O.K. ladies and gentlemen, let's settle this once and for all. I have a confession to make. I am a closet TDK fan. I have never admitted this to the taping community before for fear of being ostracized. Can anyone tell me why Maxells are so predominantl
y used. To be honest with my eyes closed I dont' think I could tell a show taped on an XLII from the same show taped on a TDK SA. I always just found TDK's to last slightly longer. So what's your opinion. Why do you prefer one brand over the other or do
you not have a preference. Let's get this out in the open and maybe we can all learn something about analog recording medium.
thanx
vegiboy
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Subject:
Re: Maxell vs. TDK
Date:
Tue, 9 Jun 1998 11:47:09 EDT
From:
Ronald Girardin
i think the MAXpoints had something to do with the popularity of MAXELL.
I too, admit that I don't really see a difference between the two.
peace
ron
Subject:
Re: Maxell vs. TDK
Date:
Tue, 9 Jun 1998 10:52:01 -0500
From:
Peter D Fetzek
On Tue, 9 Jun 1998, matt cohen wrote:
Can anyone tell me why Maxells are so predominantly used.
In a word: MAXPOINTS
....and then probably force of habit after they quit the offer.
pete
Subject:
Re: Maxell vs. TDK
Date:
Tue, 9 Jun 1998 12:29:05 EDT
From:
Omast1@AOL.COM
I have found Maxells to be more durable---TDK are eaten by my decks the way a
fat man devours Big Macs......
So it could be a matter of decks --I dunno----although I remember Prof. Glenn
White, in one of the first HTN articles on taping, stating that Maxell XLIIS
caused the least amount of hiss when copying a tape.
Tony
Subject:
Revival
Date:
Tue, 9 Jun 1998 09:26:10 PDT
From:
Kevin Zimka
With the summer tour right around the corner, time to dust of the pleas for the
Brothers to bring back "Revival".
PLLLLLEEEEEAAAAASSSSSEEEE
Kevin
Subject:
ABB background music
Date:
Tue, 9 Jun 1998 12:40:14 -0400
From:
David Tanner
Just an interesting thought I'd like to share with y'all. This morning
while working on some modifications to some old boring warehouse software
here at good ole GC&SU, I decided that some good music would make the chore
a lot more palatable. So, I popped in 2nd Set and advanced over to the last
song on the CD, 'Jessica'. As the music began, it quickly became apparent
that I could either listen to the music, or concentrate on work, doing both
was totally out of the question. Of course I chose to push back from the
keyboard and enjoy the magic. For the next sixteen minutes, the state of
Georgia definitely didn't get their moneys worth. I should have known (
having experienced this before) that I can't casually listen to theABB or
Mule. Jessica is a prime example (and there are others) where the music
grabs my attention right away and takes me on a journey that never totally
strays from the central melody of the song, although taking some very
interesting side trips. I can listen to the radio or other CDs while
working and casually enjoy them in the background, but not this. This is
special music enjoyed by folks who really appreciate the finer things.
Anyway, enough with the gushing... Hope to meet and greet a bunch of y'all
in Atlanta in september... David (wishing he could party with Ron and
everyone on the 4th) Tanner
p.s Got my Fox Run tix yesterday.... sept 4th Right Pit DDD 11 and 12
David Tanner
Georgia College & State University
Subject:
Re: From Hittin' the Web's Forum
Date:
Tue, 9 Jun 1998 11:37:08 -0700
From:
Michael Bruns
> player and I also have a knack for transcribing songs). After about 15
> minutes I figured out it was an chord that was played so perfectly it
> sounded like a single note. I think it was Bass Player mag. that
> compared him to a young Jaco. That pretty much sums it up. I loved the
> brothers music before Oteil and Jack joined but they have really added
> something special to the mix.
Nothing against Warren & Woody, Mule is
> also one of my favorite bands... Am I just rambling on now? or does
> anybody know what I am taking about?
>
To my ear, Oteil and Jack are phenomenal musicians. Oteil has gone right to
the top rung of my list of favorite electric bass players. I struggle to
think of others I like more. Jaco, Victor Bailey was phenomenal with
Zawinul Syndicate, I love Victor Wooten, but I love Oteil's playing
more-it's more lyrical. Oteil is also one of the most supportive without
being overwhelming bass players I've ever heard and support is the name of
the game for a bass player. The names I start thinking of to compare Oteil
to are among the generally acknowledged finest electric players out there.
That's tall company. I never felt that way about Allan. I don't mean any
disrespect to him. Saying that Steve Kerr is not Scottie Pippen doesn't
mean Steve Kerr still isn't a damn good basketball player, he just isn't
quite at Pippen's level.
I don't think of Jack as so clearly "better" as a player compared to
Warren, but I like him more.
Overall they've changed the sound of the band dramatically. It's more
sophisticated and interactive. Sometimes I think Dickey isn't playing
quite as hot now as he did a few years ago, but then I hear him rip one and
forget about what used to be.
Peace,
Mike
> -Mike
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------
> Mike Pistone pistone@eurekanet.com
> Systems/Network Administrator ph: 740-593-5052 x106
> Eureka Networks, Ltd. fx: 740-594-3632
>
> On Tue, 9 Jun 1998, Lana Michelizzi wrote:
>
> > Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 09:30:45 -0400
> > From: Lana Michelizzi
> > To: ALLMAN@NETSPACE.ORG
> > Subject: From Hittin' the Web's Forum
> >
> > Mornin' swwet family,
> >
> > I was out all last week doing HAHT stuff, am hopelessly behind in
reading
> > email, but thought I'd share this from the Forum with you:
> >
> >
> >
> > Original Message:
> >
> > Posted by: Bum in Boston (chris_robinson@iacnet.com )
> > Date posted: Thu May 28 12:30:21 1998
> > Subject: Summer Songs
> > Message:
> > Hello Mr. Trucks. First of all I must say it is very cool of you to
> > participate in this forum. Your music is a constant presence in my life
> > through good and bad times.
> > Thank You! Question: Is there any chance of bringing back Les Brers and
or
> > a full Mt. Jam this summer? I guess what I'm really asking is do you
guys
> > have a
> > process you follow to come up with set lists or do you create set lists
> > based on whatever floats your boat at the time? Thanks for reading and
> > whatever you all
> > choose to play I'll be loving it at Great Woods this summer. Chris
> > Robinson...Bum in Boston
> >
> > Previous reply
> >
> > Reply:
> >
> > Subject: Summer Songs
> > Reply Posted by: Butch Trucks
> > Organization: ABB
> > Date Posted: Sat Jun 6 12:30:46 1998
> > Message:
> > Thanks for the thoughts. Les Brers is definitely a possibility. It is
one
> > of my favorite jam songs and we have talked about bringing it back. You
> > must undersatnd that
> > Mountain Jam is not a song. It is a jam that developed over 100's of
gigs
> > and afternoon jams and was unique to that group. If we were to do
another
> > one now it
> > really wouldn't be the same at all. We are starting to develop a few
things
> > on Jessie and High Falls that may turn into a MJ type of extension.
We'll
> > just have to wait
> > and see.
> >
> >
> > take care and know that you are loved ...
> >
> > Lana
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------*
> > Lana Michelizzi www.haht.com
> > Operations Manager Phone: 919.786.5137
> > HAHT Software, Inc. Fax: 919.786.5115
> > 4200 Six Forks Rd.
> > Raleigh, NC 27609
>
>
Subject:
Re: Maxell vs. TDK
Date:
Tue, 9 Jun 1998 13:22:52 EDT
From:
Skaidawg@AOL.COM
In a message dated 98-06-09 11:45:03 EDT, you write:
<< O.K. ladies and gentlemen, let's settle this once and for all. I have a
confession to make. I am a closet TDK fan. I have never admitted this to the
taping community before for fear of being ostracized. Can anyone tell me why
Maxells are so predominantly used. To be honest with my eyes closed I dont'
think I could tell a show taped on an XLII from the same show taped on a TDK
SA. I always just found TDK's to last slightly longer. So what's your opinion.
Why do you prefer one brand over the other or do you not have a preference.
Let's get this out in the open and maybe we can all learn something about
analog recording medium. >>
I have a friend who is a materials engineer and used to work with BASF. I
asked him what he thought of the two tapes and he said that the actual Iron
Acetate combo is exactly the same. A recording on the two brands SHOULD sound
exactly the same if made under EXACTLY the same conditions. The only thing he
noticed was that the backing of the Maxell tape was more durable.
This was a comparison of the SA versus the XL II. He also added that the
XLIIS was EXACTLY the same kinda tape that goes into the XL II. The only
difference was that the casing was much better for the XLIIS. Also, he noted
that the heavier casing could dampen vibration within the tape well leading to
a slightly better recording.
One other note...he mentioned that if you are taping off of a CD or DAT, the
metal tapes are the only ones that are going to capture the full dynamic
range. The top end for a SA or XL II or XL IIS tape is about 18,000 hz. The
top end of a metal tape is 22,000 hz. There are CD's that can go up to 30,000
hz and cd players that can read those. Very few commercial speakers, however,
can play above 25,000 hz. Some headphones can go up to 30,000 hz though.
Considering that the normal range of hearing in a human is 20-20000 hz, it
doesn't really matter.
One other thing...he mentioned that the dynamic range of FM radio was much
more limited then that of a recording. Putting an FM broadcast on CD is kinda
silly for the sake of YOUR recording. The top end of FM (due to the physics
of the wave) is 18,000 hz. That;s why it sounds "compressed," for lack of a
better word.
The only thing that I can say about CD's is there is no tape flip. If you
spin it for someone else onto tape, there will be that hiss that comes with
analog tape (not much for a 1st gen recording though). Also, you can listen
to it on your computer, I suppose or if that's all ya got in the car (a CD
player that is).
Finally, in regards to the 110 debate. The maxell 110 of choice is the
MX-110. They aren't sold very much for some reason. I've never seen one in a
store. You can find the TDK MA-110 in stores however. Terrapin does offer
the MX-110 if you are a die-hard Maxell fan and don't wanna use TDK's.
Anyway...that is the info I have been able to gather,
Dave
Subject:
ABB coffee table book?
Date:
Tue, 9 Jun 1998 11:02:42 -0700
From:
Bob Beatty
>--- Only the second Allman book
>Despite the compelling elements of the Allman >Brothers' story,
Freeman's is only the second book on >the band, according to his
bibliography. The first was >a 1976 publication that Freeman described
as a >coffeetable picture book.
Has anyone ever heard of this book? It'd be interesting to look & see
if it's around huh?
Bob
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Subject:
My soul's bein' MYCOLOGICIZED
Date:
Tue, 9 Jun 1998 14:03:16 -0400
From:
"Marshall, Steven A (Steven)** CTR **"
Just got back to the 'National Affairs Desk' here after a quick run out
at Lunch.
random thought while out: Where do ALL THESE PEOPLE COME FROM???
Why the hell aren't THEY at work like me??? I can pick out the few who
look
like lunchtime shoppers like me, and a few more obvious touristas and
retirees.
But there's a SHITLOAD of people it looks like who DON'T WORK. At least
they don't work the good 'ol 9-5. Now, I haven't had more than an 11 or
13 day long break from 'work' since a 3 week vacation about 1980 (I
painted my HOUSE then), an I guess I'm a victim of the 'American Ruse' -
or simply the
work ethic planted deep in my skull by my parents upon birth. But dang
it,
I can't help but feel kind of... oh hell I don't know - I'm whining now,
aren't I...
Anyway - I picked up a couple copies of MYCOLOGY at BEST BUY (12.99)
- a couple cuz I think this kind of compilation is great to pass around
to family and friends - and FOR CRYIN' OUT LOUD, this is an official
release of a
Duane era tune, so IM gonna have it! Hey - a few of y'all out there
might
just fess up that your inital ABB purchase was Decade of Hits, before we
go off slammin' the release of an Anthology. They have their
porpoise...
And looky here! In the inside cover is a hearty endorsement of OUR web
site!
And the Queen (no, not YOU Jon) and Rowland!! Thats awfully nice to
see.
Once again - I would like to thank them for all of their efforts
expended on behalf of US. I know its a labor of love - but it's still a
labor. Thankfully it
can be recognized in a very fitting manner now. AMEN
MYCOLOGY DOES sharpen my appetite for a release by the CURRENT
band - I want it - I want it ASAP - I want it done up RIGHT, too,
dammit!
Personally, I'm tickled at ANY
release by the family - and I can't argue with the selections made for
this
compilation - its some GREAT music! Which gets me on to a cutesy little
observation I'd like to make as an addendum to the "'other things I hear
when I'm listening to so-n-so track" thread(s). <===which I love to
death
Here it is - anybody notice how your BRAIN automatically begins to
'play' the
next track in order from THE ORIGINAL RECORDING when you finish up
hearing track A ??? That is to say - after Get On With Your Life
finished up
on the box here from Mycology (Track 4) - My head starts
playing/expecting the greasy intro to Midnight Man - and I suffer a
slight freak when Nobody Knows crashes in instead! I think this was one
thing that really threw me
off with the Fillmore Concerts release --- the Stevelator-2000 mental
CD player-arranger was thrown into complete discombobulation by the
rearrangment of tracks. I YAM a creature of habits... (which reminds
me, isn't it about time for a beer?). Anybody else suffer from this
peculiar 'irregularity'??
Every Hungry Woman - admittedly NOT my favorite early ABB piece - sounds
really really good - Berry is held pretty well in check in this mix, but
the
effect overall is very pleasing. They even manage to blend some nice
blown speaker whistling in an unobtrusive manner! And its placement as
the
final cut on Mycology enables the final audible on the CD to be Duane
bidding
us all "thank you" !
Well you're sure as hell welcome, bud. I'll go out and see YOUR band
again
real soon! If I can get a day offa work...
Steve
Subject:
Re: ABB coffee table book?
Date:
Tue, 9 Jun 1998 11:21:42 -0700
From:
Chris Brown
I did manage to look through this "coffeetable book". I got it through
Interlibrary Loan at the library I work for. The book has some nice
photos..it is more akin to those oversized fan books (like the Leonardo
Dicaprio ones that are floating around in bookstores). It was allright the
book was falling apart.
Chris Brown
:>>--- Only the second Allman book
>
>>Despite the compelling elements of the Allman >Brothers' story,
>Freeman's is only the second book on >the band, according to his
>bibliography. The first was >a 1976 publication that Freeman described
>as a >coffeetable picture book.
>
>Has anyone ever heard of this book? It'd be interesting to look & see
>if it's around huh?
>
>Bob
>
>
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Subject:
Re: Best of Beacon CD Update.
Date:
Tue, 9 Jun 1998 11:47:47 -0800
From:
Denise Halbe
I gotta say 3/22 has GREAT energy -
I'm very fond of Don't Want You No More
but I'm most ESPECIALLY fond of Black Hearted Woman on here.
And Sailin Cross the Devils Sea is ripping too.... :)
dos pesos [you know what THAT's worth! :)]
Denise
~from the cabin on the hill
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> From: Mike Pistone
> To: ALLMAN@NETSPACE.ORG
> Subject: Best of Beacon CD Update.
> Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 09:43:06 -0400
>
>Well I think I will have a setlist completed by next monday. It is finals
>week so I am swamped until thursday. Most requests seem to from 3/7 or
>3/14.... Aren't there any other shows that people want to see included....
>I think I am going to put in the acoustic set that included Hideaway since
>that was a special/rare moment. Also, the acoustic Liz Reed, wich I am
>yet to hear....
>
>
>Do we want this to be 1 or 2 CD legnths?
>
>Also, on the DAT vs Tape master topic... I am going to try to get all of
>the songs on DAT and make the master CD off of DAT to make the DATHeads
>happy. Personaly I can't tell the difference with a live show, BUT
>obviously other people can. If I can manage to get all the shows on DAT
>it will be a totally digital CD, if not I might have to mix in a few
>analog songs. I have some processing software that eliminates the tape
>hiss when transfering to CD so tapes will sound great anyway. This
>software also cleans up LP's when transfered to CD. It completely removes
>any of the static, hissing, and pops that "pop" up on some LPs. I'v
>transfered some old Jazz 45's that are out of print onto CD and it sounds
>line something that Blue Note just re-issued... :)
>
>-Mike
>
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There are 15 messages totalling 501 lines in this issue.
Topics in this special issue:
1. Maxell's Silver Hammer
2. maxell v tdk (2)
3. Best of Beacon CD Update.
4. ABB coffee table book? (3)
5. Beacon compilations (2)
6. Maxel vs. TDK (2)
7. A true brother, Please take a minute to read this.
8. CDnow building identity (no ABB)
9. Red Rocks Baseball
10. H.O.R.D.E. Festival in Toronto (No ABB)
Subject:
Maxell's Silver Hammer
Date:
Tue, 9 Jun 1998 11:35:20 -0700
From:
Michael Chilton <6500mdc@UCSBUXA.UCSB.EDU>
Peachniks,
While I agree that the Max Points promotion probably solidified
Maxell's share of the tape trader market, I think it is possible
to discern a trend towards Maxell dominance even earlier. The
Max Points offer just took the trend to a whole new level. (BTW,
if the person who was able to get Maxell to send him some blanks
by pointing out that TDK had recently run a promotion using the
Max Points is reading this, please contact me)
My personal preference for Maxell is, now, irrational. When I
started collecting tapes, 90 min XLIIS tapes were $1.99 and the
heavier case construction seemed well worth the extra .30 over
the price of a plain XLII. When you fast forwarded a XLIIS it
seemed there was noticeably less chatter compared to the XLII.
I'm no science guy, obviously, but it seemed to me that a heavier
case would translate into less chance of the tape unduly wiggling
around inside while recording.
I say irrational because I can no longer afford XLIIS tapes and
even though the Max Points program is over and even though I've
read the test results in Consumer Reports showing some (marginal?)
superiority of TDK over Maxell, I still buy Maxell. Unless I'm
desperately strapped for cash, I'd rather pay $1.67 for a Maxell
XLII than $1.50 for a TDK.
Then again, maybe it's not irrational. Maybe there's some sense
in making a choice and sticking with it in your collection. It
could be TDK or Maxell or whatever, but using the same brand
over time, in some way, might allow you to develop a feeling for
what to expect from the product. It's possibly the case that
each brand has certain characteristics that, while not being
necessarily quantifiable or even identifiable, are more or less
consistent over time. If so, and you use enough of them, you
might sort of develop a sense of what to expect from a brand.
Like I said, I'm no science guy.
Still, all said, I'm absolutely positive I couldn't tell the
difference in a blind product to product comparison. *shrug*
In Peach We Trust,
Michael Chilton
(not a science guy)
NP: NFA>GDTRFB>NFA, The Grateful Goddamn Dead, 4/6/71
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Subject:
maxell v tdk
Date:
Tue, 9 Jun 1998 13:02:04 -0700
From:
Stu Jones
let me weigh in on this one
A) never had a tdk eaten by a tade deck (sorry tony, i have had a number
of maxell's go that route)
B) to a large degree i think force of habit from max points figures into
it
C) i have been told, but am not an engineer and cant verify, that tdk
holds the upper end better
D) if you are trading sax/xliis the i would guess the shell may make the
xliis a slightly better tape
E) i prefer to trade tdk but have little opportunity to do so as they
arent readily available where i am
hope everyone is well
peace
stu
--
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"war is over....if you want....."
john lennon
Stu Jones stu@kardworx.com
www.kardworx.com/list
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Subject:
Re: Best of Beacon CD Update.
Date:
Tue, 9 Jun 1998 12:07:46 -0700
From:
Rebecca Fuller
>> From: Mike Pistone
>> To: ALLMAN@NETSPACE.ORG
>> Subject: Best of Beacon CD Update.
>> Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 09:43:06 -0400
>>
I think I am going to put in the acoustic set that included Hideaway since
>>that was a special/rare moment. Also, the acoustic Liz Reed, wich I am
>>yet to hear....
pony boy! going down the road feelin bad! come on in my kitchen.
hey! how about an all-beacon-all-acoustic tape?!
b
Subject:
Re: maxell v tdk
Date:
Tue, 9 Jun 1998 15:43:23 -0400
From:
Josh Chasin
I am a less avid tap trader than many of you, but I have always preferred
TDK to Maxell. I have always felt-- and believe me, I know there may be
nothing at all to this-- that TDK is better for highs, Maxell for lows. And
my preference for TDK is simply a matter of which end of the sonic spectrum
makes my ears happiest.
Subject:
Re: ABB coffee table book?
Date:
Tue, 9 Jun 1998 15:46:11 -0400
From:
Steve DeCristofor
Yeah I have it. It's a large paperback kinda book. Same old stories and
photos. I guess it came out in the late 70's. No big deal though. I
haven't looked through it for years.
Steve
On Tue, 9 Jun 1998, Bob Beatty wrote:
> >--- Only the second Allman book
>
> >Despite the compelling elements of the Allman >Brothers' story,
> Freeman's is only the second book on >the band, according to his
> bibliography. The first was >a 1976 publication that Freeman described
> as a >coffeetable picture book.
>
> Has anyone ever heard of this book? It'd be interesting to look & see
> if it's around huh?
>
> Bob
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Subject:
Beacon compilations
Date:
Tue, 9 Jun 1998 17:15:56 EDT
From:
Adam D Kroft
Wow, lots of good ideas flowing on this topic! In response to Mike, I'd go
for 2 CDs for a Best of the Beacon. If a radio show couldn't get less than
2 discs worth of material I doubt a bunch of avid fans can.
Also, I think becca's idea of a compilation of acoustic Beacon material
(in whatever medium - CD or tape) would be cool too. I guess there's a lot
you can do when your fav. band plays a three week stand :)
~40 Lire (or so) (hey, Denise started it :)
Adam
Subject:
Re: Maxel vs. TDK
Date:
Tue, 9 Jun 1998 16:26:41 -0500
From:
Dean
> In a message dated 98-06-09 11:45:03 EDT, you write:
>
> One other note...he mentioned that if you are taping off of a CD or DAT,
the
> metal tapes are the only ones that are going to capture the full dynamic
> range. The top end for a SA or XL II or XL IIS tape is about 18,000 hz.
The
> top end of a metal tape is 22,000 hz. There are CD's that can go up to
30,000
> hz and cd players that can read those. Very few commercial speakers,
however,
> can play above 25,000 hz. Some headphones can go up to 30,000 hz though.
> Considering that the normal range of hearing in a human is 20-20000 hz,
it
> doesn't really matter.
I would venture most adults cannot hear 20,000 - it's not so much the
average but rather the max. for a human (and probably one that hasn't
played loud music for years & years). Oh, and CD's only go to 22,050 - by
definition (half the 44,100 sampling rate).
When you consider that alot of vintage shows (60's, 70's) taken from
audience tapes probably have upper end freq's around 6 Khz, it's really way
overkill to pick and choose the "best" audio tape, anyone will do fine to
reproduce crummy sounding (the sonics, not the performance) shows.
Dean
Subject:
Re: Beacon compilations
Date:
Tue, 9 Jun 1998 15:33:07 -0700
From:
Rebecca Fuller
At 02:15 PM 6/9/98 , Adam D Kroft wrote:
In response to Mike, I'd go
>for 2 CDs for a Best of the Beacon.
2 CDs is always better than 1! I say, go for it.
my 9 drachs.
b
Subject:
A true brother, Please take a minute to read this.
Date:
Tue, 9 Jun 1998 16:44:55 -0600
From:
Shane McCrae
Hi Folks,
Just a note to say thanks to a great guy, Kevin Zimka.
I was working in my office today when my wife came downstairs and said "you
got a package in the mail."
Imagine my surprise when I opened it up and found 5 tapes in side, The
Beacon '98, Manley Fieldhouse 7/72, and The Warehouse 9/71. Also included
was a simple note reading "hope this helps." Amazing!!
As many of you know I have recently faced up to some problems in my life
that needed dealing with. I am now one month drug free and, thanks in no
small part to the support I've recieved from so many of you, I will remain
so. But this takes the cake.
Thank you Kevin, you are a most excellent dude and a generous, caring man.
My day, week, month and so on were made by your wonderful gesture of
kindness.
Ladies and gentlemen, please send Kevin a smile, he is a brother of the
highest degree. Sincerely, Shane "Stray Dog" McCrae
Subject:
Re: Maxel vs. TDK
Date:
Tue, 9 Jun 1998 18:52:06 EDT
From:
Skaidawg@AOL.COM
In a message dated 98-06-09 17:28:12 EDT, you write:
<< I would venture most adults cannot hear 20,000 - it's not so much the
average but rather the max. for a human (and probably one that hasn't
played loud music for years & years). Oh, and CD's only go to 22,050 - by
definition (half the 44,100 sampling rate). >>
Seems like I remember reading that a cymbal splash is around 13,000 hz.
Probably the highest pitch you are likely to find in music. The reason for
going above 20,000 hz is a theory that you can sense the sound. There are
cd's that go above 22,050. I can not remember the name of the technology, but
they have a special symbol on the disc itself. The cd players to play them
cost about $3000. When I was looking at new tape decks last year, the place I
got my Yamaha's had em. I listened to them with headphones that went above
30,000 hz and couldn't tell a difference.
It's funny...I have Surrealistic Pillow on vinyl. When I play "Embryonic
Journey" on the record, it sounds more....THERE. I don't know how to explain
it other then that. I borrowed the cd and played it on the same stereo and it
wasn't the same. Of course, the snaps and pops weren't there...but the vinyl
seemed to have more volume. And by that, I mean more space...not louder.
Dave
Subject:
CDnow building identity (no ABB)
Date:
Tue, 9 Jun 1998 16:11:13 -0700
From:
"P. G. Torrez"
I know that many of you buy some of your music via Cdnow, so this may be of
interest. --PGTorrez
- - - - - - -
(from the SAN JOSE MERCURY NEWS, Tuesday, June 9, 1998)
CDwho? Net retailer tries to build a brand name
JENKINTOWN, Pa. (AP) -- Haven't heard of CDnow? Just wait.
Its blue-and-white logo is popping up all over the World Wide Web, as the
online music retailer races to establish its brand name and stave off
competition from better-known foes.
At Internet directories Yahoo, Lycos and WebCrawler, cdnow.com is just a
click away. At entertainment sites Mr. Showbiz, Wall of Sound and the
Rolling Stone Network, readers are urged to become CDnow customers.
Television is the next frontier. CDnow, based in suburban Philadelphia,
recently agreed to a $22.5 million sponsorship deal with MTV Networks, the
division of Viacom Inc. that owns cable music stations MTV and VH1.
``We're building a brand,'' said founder Jason Olim, 28. ``I see (music
sales) probably as being a three-brand game.''
Which three will prevail remains to be seen.
Less than 1 percent of recorded music sales occur over the Internet,
divided among hundreds of retailers, from mass marketers to record labels
to local skateboard shops.
CDnow led the market last year with 33 percent of online music sales, twice
the share of No. 2 Music Boulevard, according to New York research firm
Jupiter Communications.
But well-known rivals are crowding the field. Tower Records and mail-order
merchants K-Tel and Columbia House have moved onto the Web. Blockbuster and
booksellers Borders and Amazon.com also offer music at their sites.
Olim isn't worried. ``I'm looking at the fact that 99 percent of retail
sales are not taking place on the Internet,'' he said.
That figure will shrink. Jupiter predicts online music sales will reach
$1.6 billion annually within four years. And today's Web marketing battles
will determine which retailers survive to cash in, Jupiter analyst Ken
Cassar said.
``Everyone is losing money because the margins are so low. What people are
shooting for is an established market share by 2002,'' he said. ``It is
important that you be No. 1, No. 2 or maybe No. 3.''
To make themselves known, CDnow and other online retailers have allied with
portals -- the search engines and Internet services such as America Online
where most Web surfers start their ride.
The strategy is necessary, Cassar said, because CDnow and many of its
competitors offer pretty much the same wide selection.
CDnow made its first deal with Yahoo, paying for the right to stick its
button alongside the Web's most popular directory.
That was in August. Since then, ``the portals have effectively been locked
up for the next two to four years by the big players,'' Cassar said.
He anticipates that online retailers will begin to shift more dollars to
traditional advertising, such as CDnow's MTV deal and its spots on Howard
Stern's radio show.
CDnow also offers ``cosmic credit'' to enlist average folks in its
marketing army. Similar to programs offered by Amazon and Borders, cosmic
credit rewards people who link their Web pages to CDnow's with a slice of
the revenue generated by the link. So far, 18,000 have joined up.
``You build the name, you build the brand, then you make the money,'' said
Lauren Shanahan, spokeswoman for the Association of Internet Professionals.
``This is a traditional retailing concept.''
Olim was a Brown University graduate and software engineer when he launched
CDnow four years ago with his twin brother, Matthew.
Inspiration dawned in college, after he received a copy of Miles Davis'
``Kind of Blue.'' When he went to a record store seeking more of the same,
the teen-age clerk pointed him to section ``M.''
``What I wanted was a better music store,'' Olim said. ``I thought what
would work is a database that would take the information in review guides
and put it together with the records.''
Starting with $20,000, the Olim brothers spent six months ``coding like
madmen'' before they were ready in August 1994.
The Olims launched a dial-up site and netted $14 the first month. A friend
then told Olim that he should think about going on the then-nascent Web.
``He said, `It's going to be huge,''' Olim recalled. ``I said, `Well,
maybe.' At no point did I imagine it would be this big.''
CDnow's revenues grew to $17.4 million in 1997, and $10 million in the
first quarter of 1998, Cassar said. The company has tripled its staff in a
year, to more than 130. While CDnow lost more than $10 million last year,
it benefited from Wall Street's enthusiasm for Internet
stocks earlier this year. The company began trading its shares on Nasdaq
exchange in February and raised $61 million in cash, which it has been
spending on the new promotions.
CDnow.com can be read in nine languages and boasts 250,000 titles but no
inventory. When an order is placed, CDnow has it sent out by a distributor.
Compact discs run a few dollars below list, plus shipping.
Unlike N2K's Music Boulevard, CDnow produces little of its own content.
CDnow has a four-year deal with College Media Inc. to allow customers to
access record reviews from the CMJ music monthlies. Under the three-year
deal with MTV, CDnow will sponsor MTV and VH1 telecasts while offering
reviews and music news from the networks at its Web site.
``You won't find us trying to build a magazine,'' Olim said. ``We're not
going to try to waste our time trying to compete with our partners.''
#
Subject:
Red Rocks Baseball
Date:
Tue, 9 Jun 1998 17:37:09 PDT
From:
Kevin Zimka
Fellow ABB Red Rockers,
The Colorado Rockies are playing the Philadelphia Phillies @ 1:05 pm on Sunday
August the 16th at Coors Field. Even if the ABB adds a third show, it would be
possible to catch this game. I'm going to purchase some tickets so all those
who'll still be around and want to go email me privately so I know how many to
purchase.
KevinZ
Subject:
Re: ABB coffee table book?
Date:
Tue, 9 Jun 1998 21:15:29 EDT
From:
Janice Barton
Hey there to Steve or anyone else who has this book. Could you please give me
any info - author, title, ISBN (10 digit number, probably starts with a zero
- usually found at the bottom of the back cover), anything I could use to find
this book? Your help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks a bunch!
-- Janice B.
Only 54 days 'til I get to see my favourite band!!!
Subject:
H.O.R.D.E. Festival in Toronto (No ABB)
Date:
Tue, 9 Jun 1998 21:15:32 EDT
From:
Janice Barton
Hiya all. Just thought I'd let anyone who's interested know that HORDE has
finally been announced for here in Toronto, Ontario. The show is at the
Molson Ampitheatre on Tuesday, July 28, and the lineup includes: Blues
Traveler, Gov't. Mule, Barenaked Ladies, Ben Harper, Alana Davis, and Marcy
Playground. Tickets go onsale this Saturday, June 13, at 10:00am. This will
be a nice little warm-up for the show I'm really looking forward to the
following Sunday.
--Janice B.
"Gonna get my ass kicked for the first time!"
Subject:
Re: ABB coffee table book?
Date:
Tue, 9 Jun 1998 21:22:08 EDT
From:
RAB@AOL.COM
I'll take a shot at this one. The book eveyone is asking about is probably as
follows:
The Allman Brothers Band
A Biography in Words & Pictures
by Tom Nolan
Sire Books
Chappell Music Company
Copyright 1976
ISBN - 06-465074-X
Haven't seen a copy for sale in YEARS. Probably out of print.
Subject:
ALLMAN Digest - 9 Jun 1998
Date:
Wed, 10 Jun 1998 00:02:06 -0400
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There are 5 messages totalling 166 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. ABB background music
2. Maxell vs. Others
3. More Baseball
4. OKBits....come on down to The Mint!
5. Coffee Table Book
Subject:
ABB background music
Date:
Tue, 9 Jun 1998 18:41:15 -0700
From:
Bob Beatty
---Automatic digest processor wrote:
> ATTACHMENT part 1 message/rfc822
> player and I also have a knack for transcribing songs). After about
15
> > minutes I figured out it was an chord that was played so perfectly
it
> > sounded like a single note. I think it was Bass Player mag. that
> > compared him to a young Jaco. That pretty much sums it up. I
loved the
> > brothers music before Oteil and Jack joined but they have really
added
> > something special to the mix.
> Nothing against Warren & Woody, Mule is
> > also one of my favorite bands... Am I just rambling on now? or does
> > anybody know what I am taking about?
> >
>
>
> To my ear, Oteil and Jack are phenomenal musicians. Oteil has gone
right to
> the top rung of my list of favorite electric bass players. I
struggle to
> think of others I like more. Jaco, Victor Bailey was phenomenal with
> Zawinul Syndicate, I love Victor Wooten, but I love Oteil's playing
> more-it's more lyrical. Oteil is also one of the most supportive
without
> being overwhelming bass players I've ever heard and support is the
name of
> the game for a bass player. The names I start thinking of to compare
Oteil
> to are among the generally acknowledged finest electric players out
there.
> That's tall company. I never felt that way about Allan. I don't
mean any
> disrespect to him. Saying that Steve Kerr is not Scottie Pippen
doesn't
> mean Steve Kerr still isn't a damn good basketball player, he just
isn't
> quite at Pippen's level.
>
> I don't think of Jack as so clearly "better" as a player compared to
> Warren, but I like him more.
>
> Overall they've changed the sound of the band dramatically. It's more
> sophisticated and interactive. Sometimes I think Dickey isn't playing
> quite as hot now as he did a few years ago, but then I hear him rip
one and
> forget about what used to be.
>
> Peace,
>
> Mike
>
>
> > -Mike
> >
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> >
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Subject:
Maxell vs. Others
Date:
Tue, 9 Jun 1998 21:48:37 EDT
From:
OneWayOutx@AOL.COM
I don't know much about TDK, and I'm not a sound engineer, and I can't tell
the difference between hertz a little and hertz a lot, too many years in front
rows I guess, but..... I was trying to spin a tape for someone yesterday from
a full Maxell XLII 90 onto a Sony HF90 that I ended up with somehow and the
Sony tape ran out about 10-15 seconds before the Maxell ended....now THAT
sucked. Round filing the Sony and sticking to Maxell here.....
GlennB
Subject:
More Baseball
Date:
Tue, 9 Jun 1998 21:52:18 EDT
From:
OneWayOutx@AOL.COM
Anyone know if the Blue Jays have a home game on 8/1 before the ABB on 8/2?
...or if the Braves are at home the week of the Fox Run??
GlennB
Subject:
OKBits....come on down to The Mint!
Date:
Tue, 9 Jun 1998 22:23:13 EDT
From:
OKBand@AOL.COM
Don't forget Wednesday night JUNE 10th in Los Angeles:
Last week Duane Betts was sailin'.....
Oakley Krieger Band
@ The Mint
6010 Pico (Pico & Crescent Heights)
10:30p
oh, and I forgot!
Oakley Krieger Band headlines The Ventura Theater - Ventura California
Thursday, July 2, 1998
Tickets are $10 in advance, $12 at the door.
This is a big theater, help us fill it up....
In between...
OKB opens for Marshall Tucker at the Key Club in L.A. June 29th.....
:)
p.s. we're trying some geek stuff - subscribe to our automatic email list:
OKBits (for AOL
users) or
http://www.listbot.com/cgi-
bin/subscriber?Act=subscribe_list_new_e_mail&list_id=OKB
Subject:
Re: Coffee Table Book
Date:
Tue, 9 Jun 1998 22:46:36 -0400
From:
Daryl Mann
`Despite the compelling elements of the Allman >Brothers' story,
Freeman's is only the second book on >the band, according to his
bibliography. The first was >a 1976 publication that Freeman described
as a >coffeetable picture book'
`Has anyone ever heard of this book? It'd be interesting to look & see
if it's around huh?'
I'm assuming that this is Tom Nolan's 1975 softcover book on the
Brothers. It is *extremely* rare but well worth picking up if you
do see it. In the book it is mentioned that the Allmans played `My
Favourite Things' at an early gig and I believe it is in this tome
that the `Eric only plays acoustic on `Layla'' vibe started.
Daryl.
Subject:
ALLMAN Digest - 10 Jun 1998 - Special issue
Date:
Wed, 10 Jun 1998 18:02:18 -0400
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ALLMAN Digest - 10 Jun 1998 - Special issue
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There are 17 messages totalling 502 lines in this issue.
Topics in this special issue:
1. mycology
2. ABB coffee table book?
3. Coffee Table Book
4. Betts-o-mania
5. odds an' ends
6. Great Woods 6/19
7. Red Rocks, help
8. CD-R info
9. odds an' ends-Victor Wooten
10. Third Stone (2)
11. Charlotte 7/4 and The Fox (2)
12. ABB in Nautica
13. Peachy vibes
14. a health related request (0ABB)
15. coffee table book, etc (new string suggestion at bottom)
Subject:
mycology
Date:
Wed, 10 Jun 1998 12:48:46 +0100
From:
Jules Fothergill
Hiya - anyone bought mycology yet? Just wondering about the sound quality of the atlanta 7/3/70
song. It's another thing like the way they only included one Watkins Glen cut on Wipe the Windows...
doh!
bye then,
Jules
Subject:
Re: ABB coffee table book?
Date:
Wed, 10 Jun 1998 07:51:18 -0400
From:
Steve DeCristofor
Sure Janice. I'll check it out tonight when I get home.
Steve
On Tue, 9 Jun 1998, Janice Barton wrote:
> Hey there to Steve or anyone else who has this book. Could you please give me
> any info - author, title, ISBN (10 digit number, probably starts with a zero
> - usually found at the bottom of the back cover), anything I could use to find
> this book? Your help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks a bunch!
> -- Janice B.
> Only 54 days 'til I get to see my favourite band!!!
>
Subject:
Re: Coffee Table Book
Date:
Wed, 10 Jun 1998 12:58:33 +0100
From:
Jules Fothergill
Alan Hilbert wrote:
> I've seen the Tom Nolan paperback book. A good friend let me borrow it
> several years back. IMHO it's a pretty forgetable book...with one exception.
> Theres a photo of Duane (looks like he is in a studio) with his Gibson around
> his neck. In one hand he has a bottle of some sort of whisky and on his face
> is that look of "holy shit, that's some good red eye!" That photo is truly
> worth a thousand words...
just by the by there's a scan of that photo (which is ace, I agree :-) ) at hittin' the web:
http://www.allmanbrothersband.com/people/duane/duane.html
worth a look... (how I'd love to know what song they were just about to record!)
J.
Subject:
Betts-o-mania
Date:
Wed, 10 Jun 1998 09:39:46 -0500
From:
Peter D Fetzek
Hi all-
For any of you who are 100%, true blue, died-in-the-wool diehard Dickey
Betts fanatics, I have an offer for you:
ABB 8/31/73 unknown venue, Atlanta, GA
Betts et al, 4/14/96 R'n'R HOF, Cleveland OH (acoustic)
Both are very good, low gen AUD copies. The HOF show is with Warren &
Alle(& a very good Ramblin' Man); in the 8/31 the mix is a little off
because it was recorded right
in front of Dickey's amp! So though you hear the rest of the band, Betts'
playing is predominant. I'll spin 'em for ya if yer into it. Drop me a
line and I'll take as many as I feel I can handle.
later,
pete
Subject:
odds an' ends
Date:
Wed, 10 Jun 1998 11:31:35 -0400
From:
"Robert (Bob) McCann"
Just checked Amazon Books for the ABB book by Nolan. They have it listed;
but it is no longer in print and not currently available. However, if you
want a copy you can still place an order for it and they say they will
check their network of used book dealers for a copy and get back to you
within two weeks and let you know what they have found.
BTW, the hardcover version of Midnight Riders is also out-of-print and not
currently available. They do have the paperback version available.
Someone mentioned Victor Wooten the other day (I forget who it was) and
that reminded me that my neighbor (plays bass in a gospel group) and I had
been discussing bass players and he had mentioned this same player and told
me that he had a video tape of him playing and demonstrating playing
techniques. So I went across the street last night and borrowed the tape
and watched it. I have to admit I was not familiar with this guy at all;
but he is awesome. Who does he play with? What's his background?
I will be changing jobs here at the university around the first of the
month (don't know where I'm going to wind up, but the university has to
find me another position since they are abolishing my current one and I've
got 19 years in here), so I'll be losing this email address. I'm sure that
I'll get a new one, but am not at all sure about how relaxed the work
environment will be as far as allowing me to continue subscribing to this
list. Or even if I'll have my own terminal or will have to share one. If I
do have to drop off the list I hope that some of you will still stay in
contact either via regular mail or phone and keep me in the tape pipeline.
I've got three interviews scheduled (two tomorrow; both in the main library
on campus, one in circulation, the other in reference; and then for another
position in circulation next Monday). Any good vibes will be greatly
appreciated. I'll let you know what happens.
As some of you already know, due to this job change situation I've had to
cancel my plans to be at the ABB's July 4th concert in Charlotte and the
party at Ron's. Wish I could be with you all, but the situation here
dictates otherwise.
It looks like I'll be spending my Fourth of July holiday making sure no
neighborhood fool sets my yard or house on fire with any errant fireworks
(it's so dry around here that there are no fires being allowed in any of
the area parks or camping facilities.
We've been experiencing a smoky haze for several days now as a result of a
fire that started back on Memorial Day in the nearby Apalachacola National
Forest and is still burning and has gotten to within twenty miles of town.
Never thought I'd say this, but we could sure use some rain and there isn't
any in the forecast through the rest of this week.
Finally got my new blinds installed in the living room of my new home last
Friday and my stereo hooked up over the weekend. Last night I got started
on the taping commitments that sort of got back-logged during my moving
process. So for the four of you (you know who you are), a little more
patience; the dubbing is finally underway.
On the Maxell vs. TDK topic......one problem I've encountered is that
sometimes 90 on one doesn't equal 90 on the other when dubbing; in other
words, what I'm trying to express is that I've occasionally had a tape run
out before I was finished dubbing to it. Both were 90 min tapes; just
different brands. On my old deck I had some problems with TDK tapes getting
eaten; but since I've upgraded my decks I haven't had any problems with
that. As far as sound quality goes, I've experimented dubbing a show onto
both brand new TDK & Maxell tapes and I can't tell any difference.
Peace.....
Bob
Subject:
Great Woods 6/19
Date:
Wed, 10 Jun 1998 11:00:15 -0500
From:
Ritch Baudendistel
Howdy all
Is there any tickets left for the Great Woods show on the 19th? A friend
and I want to mosey on over to MA to see ABB. I will be looking forward
hearing from anyone.
Enjoying nuggets of Les Bres during Whipping Post at the Fillmore.
Ritch
Subject:
Red Rocks, help
Date:
Wed, 10 Jun 1998 11:28:46 -0500
From:
Jay Haines
hey bro's and sis's (does that work?)
I'm sitting here wondering where my Red Rocks ticket might have gotten
to and realized I don't have any of the on-sale date info like when they
went on sale and what the name of the ticket agency was. All I have is a
confirmation number and a note saying they would be delivered about
three weeks from my order.
I'm pretty sure its been three weeks and I haven't seen hide nor hair.
Can anyone help with the vitals?
Jay
Subject:
CD-R info
Date:
Wed, 10 Jun 1998 12:26:44 -0400
From:
Tom Hoffman
hey peachheads:-)
just took the plunge into the fun and exciting world of making my own CDs. found a sweet deal at turtle beach's website. they have a deal on a
Ricoh 2x write 4x read scsi burner for $149.95. comes with a scsi card & drivers, a 74 minute CD and Corel CD-creator. have made a few discs so
far and the thing has worked perfectly. go check it out if you are interested. see ya at starlake:-)
T
Subject:
Re: odds an' ends-Victor Wooten
Date:
Wed, 10 Jun 1998 11:53:26 -0700
From:
Michael Bruns
Bob,
I mentioned Victor Wooten when talking about Oteil. Victor is the bass
player in Bela Fleck and the Flecktones. He's one of the people who's often
talked about in Bass Player magazine. He does a lot of two hand tapping
stuff as well as regular bass. He gets lots of feature space with Bela. He
also has his own album out, but I've heard reports of it's lameness.
Victor's brother, Future Man, plays synthdrums with Bela. He plays a
guitarsynth called a Synth Axe triggering drum sound/samples. It's a
pretty wild setup, but it sounds good musically. Bela is the baddest banjo
player I know. He has revolutionized the instrument and stretched the
possibilities of the instrument far beyond what I'd heard before him.(his
pal Tony Trishka is pretty awesome, too, on banjo)
They're well worth checking out. The overall sound is fusiony in a good
way.....
Peace,
Mike
.
>
> Someone mentioned Victor Wooten the other day (I forget who it was) and
> that reminded me that my neighbor (plays bass in a gospel group) and I
had
> been discussing bass players and he had mentioned this same player and
told
> me that he had a video tape of him playing and demonstrating playing
> techniques. So I went across the street last night and borrowed the tape
> and watched it. I have to admit I was not familiar with this guy at all;
> but he is awesome. Who does he play with? What's his background?
>
>
Subject:
Third Stone
Date:
Wed, 10 Jun 1998 13:54:26 EDT
From:
Jason Haynes
If anyone could tell me the origin of this song/jam I would appreciate it?
-Jason
Subject:
Charlotte 7/4 and The Fox
Date:
Wed, 10 Jun 1998 14:48:25 -0400
From:
Ron Everhart
Hey, y'all,
couple things (other than what a GLORIOUS day to be an Allman Brothers fan!)
1) Charlotte 7/4: I'd like to get a preliminary count on who MIGHT show up
at the ol' homestead for the very low-key (I'm a different person in
Charlotte than in NYC, Hot 'Lanta, or Denver, or heck, even Raleigh-wood)
pre-show on the 4th.
Sooo...anyone who may happen to be in our neck of the woods 'round that
time, let me know, eh, so I can start figuring party supplies (& maybe a
door prize or two, nothing bigger than a tape), send out some "how to get
here" and "what to bring" (nothing required, anything graciously regarded)
emails and such. Plus, if anyone would be in Friday afternoon or evening,
there may be a thing or two that can be done in conjunction with he visit
("Everest" at our local IMAX, Steady Rollin' Bob Margolin at the World
Famous Double Door on 7/3, that sort of thing). No hurry, and no need for
replies from
The Blantons + 2
Chris H + 1
Chris Sheppard + 3
My left-coast pager benefactress
RLH
and M Jones,
'cause I alreday have y'all down. (WHO'M I most ungraciously, pig dat I am,
fergettin'?)
Skaidawg, you comin'?
Doug, Gerry, and Mike: y'all locals, expect to hear from you soon,OK?
2) The Fox. We 'uns from outside Hot Lanta need some guidance on hotel
plans. (I MAY already be set, but even so, many of us probably need some
guidance.) Sounds like some of the younger, wilder fans'll be staying at the
Days Inn and such? Any thoughts for us slightly more sedate (I'm referring
to my lovely wife,of course) folk? Also, any websites on the history of etc,
the Fox a la the Beacon? AND, who's gonna make a list of which 'uns of us
are a comin' and where we'll all be a sittin'?
Eatin' an anticipatory peach (that I always thought would be
ever-so-slightly better than the real thing until a magical weekend about
three months ago) as the "Alllmans tour o' Historical Venues"* continues
unabated,
ron e.
*Charlotte isn't one of those, however
Subject:
ABB in Nautica
Date:
Wed, 10 Jun 1998 15:38:20 -0400
From:
scarle@JUNO.COM
Thirteen days till I get to see my favorite band
Sam C.
scarle@juno.com
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Subject:
Re: Third Stone
Date:
Wed, 10 Jun 1998 15:04:30 -0700
From:
Steve Schmidt
Jason Haynes wrote:
>
> If anyone could tell me the origin of this song/jam I would appreciate it?
>
> -Jason
Are you talking other than the original Jimi Hendrix song, or rather how
the ABB has come to use it in jams. The first I heard it was in an ABB
context was in 94 during Jessica. The band used this song for its drum
solo and coming out of the drums Dickey would blend in to 3rd Stone for
awhile the back into Jessica.
BTW, Stevie Ray Vaughn would do a killer 3rd Stone as a set closer in
his early club days. Great feedback ,neck bending,etc.
Subject:
Peachy vibes
Date:
Wed, 10 Jun 1998 14:55:51 -0500
From:
Jim Coombs
Howdy gals and bros,
Thanks again to all of you who sent peachy vibes for the smooth recovery
from my ear-bone surgery. I got back from Indiana last Sunday and have
been recuperating at home. My surgery lasted 7 hours, but it was
successful. The granuloma was removed. My recovery went quicker than
planned. I spent about 17 hours in Intensive Care and another 25 hours in
the hospital. I was released Thursday afternoon.
I am taking pain medication which keeps me weak and sleepy, but I'm feeling
no pain. I'm not allowed to drive for 3 weeks. I can't hear well out of
my left ear because my inner ear is full of blood, and the Drs say it will
take 4-6 weeks to get back to normal. This means I can't enjoy music,
which is a real drag.
have a goodun'
jammin' Jim
Subject:
Re: Charlotte 7/4 and The Fox
Date:
Wed, 10 Jun 1998 04:11:02 -0400
From:
"Jimmy W. Arnold"
At 02:48 PM 6/10/98 -0400, Ron Everhart wrote:
Sounds like some of the younger, wilder fans'll be staying at the
>Days Inn and such? Any thoughts for us slightly more sedate (I'm referring
>to my lovely wife,of course) folk? Also, any websites on the history of etc,
>the Fox a la the Beacon? AND, who's gonna make a list of which 'uns of us
>are a comin' and where we'll all be a sittin'?
>
Hey Ron and yawl!!!!
You can see the Fox from the Mariott Marquis in downtown which is also next
to the Hyatt Regency. These are significantly more expensive than the Daze
Inn, but are both very close to the Fox.
Also, some history of the Fox can be found by webbing your way there from
"www.accessatlanta.com"
Later,
Jimmy
Subject:
a health related request (0ABB)
Date:
Wed, 10 Jun 1998 15:18:51 -0500
From:
Peter D Fetzek
My oldest son Gabe went to the doctor today to have some lumps in his
armpits investigated. He's the same son who lost a testicle last Dec on
account of a tumor. That one turned out to be non-cancerous, but it scared
us pretty bad. Now this has me pretty scared, too. I'm really hoping the
first pathologist was right.....Anyway, any of your prayers/thoughts/vibes
or whatever you do to Whomever is appreciated.
thanks,
pete
Subject:
Re: coffee table book, etc (new string suggestion at bottom)
Date:
Wed, 10 Jun 1998 18:01:11 EDT
From:
Tom Laffey
In a message dated 98-06-10 04:03:59 EDT, gr8ful@KARDWORX.COM writes:
<< a suggestion for a new thread:
what does everyone think will be....
a) first song played on sumer tour?????
b) biggest surprise they pull out for summer tour?????????
peace to all my favoriet brothers and sisters
stu >>
a--- full blown Les Brers
b--- see above
See ya at PNC Bank Art
Center
Laf1960
Subject:
ALLMAN Digest - 10 Jun 1998
Date:
Thu, 11 Jun 1998 00:01:27 -0400
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There are 9 messages totalling 291 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. (U) Victor Wooten (0 ABB)
2. red rocks tickets
3. Mycology (2)
4. IMPORTANT / ABB TIX @ NAUTICA
5. new jazz releases (slight ABB content)
6. DT trade
7. Canuck Mycology...
8. tape racks
Subject:
(U) Victor Wooten (0 ABB)
Date:
Wed, 10 Jun 1998 18:14:28 EDT
From:
nickk@US.IBMMAIL.COM
Bob wrote:
>Someone mentioned Victor Wooten the other day...
...
>... So I went across the street last night and borrowed the tape
>and watched it. I have to admit I was not familiar with this guy at
>all but he is awesome. Who does he play with? What's his background?
Victor Wooten is an amazing bassist who plays with Bela Fleck &
The Flecktones. I HIGHly recommend seeing this band to all you
peach-heads who have yet to witness these guys live. Amazing!
(Did I say they are amazing? :)
Regards,
Nick
Subject:
red rocks tickets
Date:
Wed, 10 Jun 1998 16:38:28 -0700
From:
Stu Jones
hi there
i just got off the phone with
ticket choice. i was informed that tickets were
there and they would be mailing them shortly.
i asked to speak to a supervisor after expressing dissatisfaction
that tickets were promised to be delivered within three weeks
and was ~~ hung up on.
i called back and was ~~ hung up on again
so i hope they dont use these folks next year, as i
wont attend, i dont think i like to do business with them.
i dislike ticketbastard, but at least they send tickets promptly
and don't hang up you.
peace
stu
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Subject:
Mycology
Date:
Wed, 10 Jun 1998 18:39:47 EDT
From:
Jamesbama@AOL.COM
Now I don't mean to stir up a hornet's nest, but does anybody else think our
beloved ex slide guitar player with the ABB got slighted on the best of
release. I did some quick math on the ABB original compositions 1990-1994:
Dickey - song writing credits 65% of new songs
Gregg - 27%
Warren - 46%
Yet on Mycology, not counting Midnight Rider/Every Hungry Woman,
Betts - 63%
Gregg - 50%
Warren - 25%
I think there are least 3 tracks that one could argue should/could have been
included: True Gravity (Betts & Haynes), Kind of Bird (ditto), and of course
Soulshine.
Strictly a financial decision??
The EHW sounds ok at lower volumes, but pretty crackly when turned up loud.
I'm not complaining though, wish they'd release the whole set.
James
Subject:
Re: Mycology
Date:
Wed, 10 Jun 1998 18:42:38 -0400
From:
Mike Pistone
I really missed soulshine on there. It is such a great song I was
suprised they passed on it.
-Mike
-------------------------------------------------------------
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Systems/Network Administrator ph: 740-593-5052 x106
Eureka Networks, Ltd. fx: 740-594-3632
On Wed, 10 Jun 1998 Jamesbama@AOL.COM wrote:
> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 18:39:47 EDT
> From: Jamesbama@AOL.COM
> To: ALLMAN@NETSPACE.ORG
> Subject: Mycology
>
> Now I don't mean to stir up a hornet's nest, but does anybody else think our
> beloved ex slide guitar player with the ABB got slighted on the best of
> release. I did some quick math on the ABB original compositions 1990-1994:
>
> Dickey - song writing credits 65% of new songs
> Gregg - 27%
> Warren - 46%
>
> Yet on Mycology, not counting Midnight Rider/Every Hungry Woman,
>
> Betts - 63%
> Gregg - 50%
> Warren - 25%
>
> I think there are least 3 tracks that one could argue should/could have been
> included: True Gravity (Betts & Haynes), Kind of Bird (ditto), and of course
> Soulshine.
>
> Strictly a financial decision??
>
> The EHW sounds ok at lower volumes, but pretty crackly when turned up loud.
> I'm not complaining though, wish they'd release the whole set.
>
> James
>
Subject:
IMPORTANT / ABB TIX @ NAUTICA
Date:
Wed, 10 Jun 1998 20:58:00 -0400
From:
scarle@JUNO.COM
Hey everybody,
I'd like everyone to know that I've got two tix for the June 23
and 24 shows at the Cleveland Nautica Stage. If you or you know anyone
who would want them, please email me privately at scarle@juno.com.
I had two people bail out at the last minute. The tix cost me
$27.00 a piece and I'll sell each set for $40.00 or each ticket for
$20.00.
Again, please let me know if anyone is interested and we'll work
out the details ASAP. Thank you.
Sam Carle
scarle@juno.com
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Subject:
new jazz releases (slight ABB content)
Date:
Wed, 10 Jun 1998 19:33:23 -0700
From:
Jon Sawyer
Good News-
"Oteil and the Peacemakers---Love of A Lifetime"--Release date:July 10,
1998.
Lineup:
Kofi- Keys and flute
Marcus Williams and Woody Williams- Drums
Kebbi Williams- sax
Mark Kimbrell and Regi Wooten- Guitars
On-Line ordering will be made available before the release date.
All the above at : www.nilerecords.com
**shameless plug below**
Pianist Bill Anschell also has a new cd out on accurate records called
'A different note altogether'. Band includes Woody Williams (one of the
drummers on the Oteil project) on drums, Neal Starkey on bass, & my
older bro Scott Sawyer on guitar. About half originals, & half covers,
including a beatles tune and a *smokin'* version of the Miles tune
'Solar'.
Also, the new Jazz is Dead cd is out, which I've heard is great. If only
the Brothers could could get in the studio... OK, thats all, looking
forward to Red Rocks.
Peach out, Jon
Subject:
DT trade
Date:
Wed, 10 Jun 1998 20:01:28 -0700
From:
matt cohen
I'd just like to thank everyone who responded to my request for assistance in getting my Derek Trucks collection started. The response was really overwhelming. I'd like to apologize to everyone for the long response time and if anyone didn't get respond
ed to I am truly sorry. Once again thanx to the peach community for the help.
Matt (vegiboy)
Free web-based email, Forever, From anywhere!
http://www.mailexcite.com
Subject:
Canuck Mycology...
Date:
Wed, 10 Jun 1998 21:39:54 -0600
From:
Frank King
Yo Peachheads: for those who are interested, the release date for Mycology
has been pushed back a week to next Tuesday. As well, it appears the release
of John Fogerty's Premonition VIDEO has also been delayed.
Say, there's supposed to be a video to go along with the new two-cd Skynyrd
live album (Lyve From Steel Town). Anybody seen it?
Finally, anybody who picks up the Spokane PBS station should know that the
Austin City Limits ABB repeat concert is being shown Sunday evening, 11 p.m.
Pacific time/midnight mountain time.
Frank "I gotta offer Shane McCrae some tapes" King
Calgary, Alberta
P.s. Daryl Mann, the money for Toronto/Darien Lake tix is in the mail.
Seriously.
Subject:
Re: tape racks
Date:
Wed, 10 Jun 1998 21:44:29 -0600
From:
tomdodson
Call HY-Q in Longmont, CO. 1800-878-7458.
I got a CD thingy that holds about 600 cds. They also
have stuff for tapes, and they have a color brochure that
shows the different items they sell for CDs and tapes.
Tom
-----Original Message-----
From: Stu Jones
To: ALLMAN@NETSPACE.ORG
Date: Tuesday, June 09, 1998 11:41 PM
Subject: tape racks
>i am out of space in all my tape racks and need preferably a new one.
>i have been to cortez, junction, durango and farmington in search of one
>
>with no luck. one the size of the rack holding the large majority of my
>dead collection
>(9 levels, ea holding about 34 tapes would be perfect)
>does anyone know where i could find such an animal??????
>thanks in advance, my abb tapes ar about to get pushed out oftheir small
>rack, and the hornsby, phish, etc are all in a box right now
>peace
>stu
>
>--
>******************************************************
> "war is over....if you want....."
> john lennon
>
> Stu Jones stu@kardworx.com
> www.kardworx.com/list
>******************************************************
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ALLMAN Digest - 10 Jun 1998 to 11 Jun 1998 - Special issue
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There are 12 messages totalling 505 lines in this issue.
Topics in this special issue:
1. red rocks tickets
2. ABB Nautica
3. Smiling...
4. whew.... (was: Re: a health related request (0ABB)
5. Introducing RealPlayer Plus G2 Preview
6. ABB Flashback: Dickey and "Pattern Disruptive"-1988 (2)
7. Premonition
8. tape racks
9. a health related request (0ABB)
10. Victor Wooten
11. ALLMAN Digest - 10 Jun 1998 - Special issue
Subject:
Re: red rocks tickets
Date:
Wed, 10 Jun 1998 22:03:49 -0600
From:
tomdodson
Has anyone seen their credit card statement with the Red
Rocks charge on it? The company name on the bill is
"Nobody in Particular, Denver CO."
I guess I would think that was cute and funny if I had my
tickets in my hand...and Stu didn't get hung up on...and....
Tom
-----Original Message-----
From: Stu Jones
To: ALLMAN@NETSPACE.ORG
Date: Wednesday, June 10, 1998 4:34 PM
Subject: red rocks tickets
>hi there
>i just got off the phone with
>ticket choice. i was informed that tickets were
>there and they would be mailing them shortly.
>i asked to speak to a supervisor after expressing dissatisfaction
>that tickets were promised to be delivered within three weeks
>and was ~~ hung up on.
>i called back and was ~~ hung up on again
>so i hope they dont use these folks next year, as i
>wont attend, i dont think i like to do business with them.
>i dislike ticketbastard, but at least they send tickets promptly
>and don't hang up you.
>peace
>stu
>
>--
>******************************************************
> "war is over....if you want....."
> john lennon
>
> Stu Jones stu@kardworx.com
> www.kardworx.com/list
>******************************************************
Subject:
ABB Nautica
Date:
Thu, 11 Jun 1998 02:37:07 -0400
From:
scarle@JUNO.COM
Hey Peach-heads,
One set of the Nautica tix are gone but I still got another. One
for both shows for 40.00 total.
Sam Carle
scarle@juno.com
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Subject:
Smiling...
Date:
Thu, 11 Jun 1998 10:26:26 +0100
From:
Jules Fothergill
Morning All,
hope everything's OK wherever you are - just a little note to say that I've got as many as I can
handle on the 2/11/70 tape *for the moment* -
A: 1
B: 21,170 (2/11/70 geddit... ok ok so it was lame)
C: 14
and the answer for those of you interested was C - 14 muscles. Only 14 muscles to smile! And it
takes 72 to frown... sooooo keep on smiling as Jimmy Hall once sang...
Looking forward to meeting some of ya in Hot Lanta!
bye :-)
Jules
Subject:
whew.... (was: Re: a health related request (0ABB)
Date:
Thu, 11 Jun 1998 06:44:40 -0500
From:
Peter D Fetzek
Well we can all rest easy. All it was was blocked and infected sweat
glands. We were all smiles last night.........
Thanks fpor all your concern. I knew I could count on you.....
pete
Subject:
Introducing RealPlayer Plus G2 Preview
Date:
Thu, 11 Jun 1998 07:54:41 -0400
From:
Jim Stewart
This showed up in my mail. Thought it might be of interest to some folks:
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Subject:
ABB Flashback: Dickey and "Pattern Disruptive"-1988
Date:
Thu, 11 Jun 1998 09:34:42 EDT
From:
EltSpindel@AOL.COM
Hi,
Today's flashback goes to 1988 for a Washington Post article
that talks about Dickey and "Pattern Disruptive."
I am having my computer hardware and software changed this afternoon, so
depending on how that process goes, I may or may not be able to
post tomorrow. I'm hoping the computer gods are with me. :-)
Eliot
****************************************
THE BROTHERS WEREZ BETTER, YOU BETTS
By Eve Zibart
Friday, October 28, 1988 ; Page N23
DICKEY BETTS is beginning to sound like the Hamlet of Southern rock. To
boogie or not to boogie. He can't decided whether to appease or avenge
the ghost of Duane Allman, the king of slide; and he can't escape or
exorcise it, either.
Betts is unquestionably a fine axeman -- fluid, inventive and informed
by a wide range of blues and rock 'n' roll. But the style conceived by
brothers Duane and Gregg, back when they were playing knife-in-your-boot
bars on the wrong sides of Nashville and Jacksonville, was unique even
among their boogie-band disciples in that it wailed with the holy-roller
rhythm of the rural gospel choirs. And although Betts himself was
responsible for, among others, the beautiful "In Memory of Elizabeth
Reed," his new album "Pattern Disruptive" is a soulless combination of
trite lyrics and pointy-toed road band -- REO meets ZZ Top.
The hooks are cut to order ("I've been shaken, rattled, and now it's
time to roll"), all the women have a "Stone Cold Heart" and there are so
many riffs from Betts' glory days with the Allman Brothers Band (slide
guitarist Warren Haynes pairs him in just the old way, and percussionist
Butch Trucks is a "special guest") that the album becomes a kind of
guessing game. The best moments are the guitar breaks, of course, but
even they sound too familiar. If there weren't a track called "Duane's
Tune," a PR man would've invented it.
DICKEY BETTS - "Pattern Disruptive" (CBS 44289). Appearing Sunday at the
Bayou.
//
Subject:
Re: Premonition
Date:
Thu, 11 Jun 1998 09:34:56 EDT
From:
"Gary R. Barrett"
Frank and the list,
Just videotaped the VH1 Premonition show. Good show. I continue to be amazed
at how well Fogerty's voice has held up over the years in comparison to most
of his peers. Should we thank Saul Zaentz for that? Tunes from his new CD
sound good.
Gary
Subject:
Re: tape racks
Date:
Thu, 11 Jun 1998 08:47:22 -0700
From:
Ray Hutchison
Hi Stu. I visited our library and talked them into giving me one of their
card catalogues. These things are now useless since everything is
catalogued on a computer, and the drawers hold about 20 tapes (they are
slightly wider than the tape but otherwise work fine). I know other
people on this list who have gotten these from their public libraries...
Ray
On Tue, 9 Jun 1998, Stu Jones wrote:
> i am out of space in all my tape racks and need preferably a new one.
> i have been to cortez, junction, durango and farmington in search of one
>
> with no luck. one the size of the rack holding the large majority of my
> dead collection
> (9 levels, ea holding about 34 tapes would be perfect)
> does anyone know where i could find such an animal??????
> thanks in advance, my abb tapes ar about to get pushed out oftheir small
> rack, and the hornsby, phish, etc are all in a box right now
> peace
> stu
>
> --
> ******************************************************
> "war is over....if you want....."
> john lennon
>
> Stu Jones stu@kardworx.com
> www.kardworx.com/list
> ******************************************************
>
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ray Hutchison
Professor and Chair Office: (920) 465-2355
Urban and Regional Studies Home: (920) 465-8346
University of Wisconsin-Green Bay Fax: (920) 465-2791
Green Bay, Wisconsin 54311-7001
Subject:
Re: ABB Flashback: Dickey and "Pattern Disruptive"-1988
Date:
Thu, 11 Jun 1998 09:53:04 -0400
From:
"Marshall, Steven A (Steven)** CTR **"
>----------
>From: EltSpindel@AOL.COM[SMTP:EltSpindel@AOL.COM]
>Reply To: EltSpindel@AOL.COM
>Sent: Thursday, June 11, 1998 9:34 AM
>To: ALLMAN@NETSPACE.ORG
>Subject: ABB Flashback: Dickey and "Pattern Disruptive"-1988
>
>Hi,
>
>Today's flashback goes to 1988 for a Washington Post article
>that talks about Dickey and "Pattern Disruptive."
>
>I am having my computer hardware and software changed this afternoon, so
>depending on how that process goes, I may or may not be able to
>post tomorrow. I'm hoping the computer gods are with me. :-)
>
>Eliot
>****************************************
>
>
>THE BROTHERS WEREZ BETTER, YOU BETTS
>By Eve Zibart
>Friday, October 28, 1988 ; Page N23
>DICKEY BETTS is beginning to sound like the Hamlet of Southern rock. To
>boogie or not to boogie. He can't decided whether to appease or avenge
>the ghost of Duane Allman, the king of slide; and he can't escape or
>exorcise it, either.
>
>Betts is unquestionably a fine axeman -- fluid, inventive and informed
>by a wide range of blues and rock 'n' roll. But the style conceived by
>brothers Duane and Gregg, back when they were playing knife-in-your-boot
>bars on the wrong sides of Nashville and Jacksonville, was unique even
>among their boogie-band disciples in that it wailed with the holy-roller
>rhythm of the rural gospel choirs. And although Betts himself was
>responsible for, among others, the beautiful "In Memory of Elizabeth
>Reed," his new album "Pattern Disruptive" is a soulless combination of
>trite lyrics and pointy-toed road band -- REO meets ZZ Top.
>
>The hooks are cut to order ("I've been shaken, rattled, and now it's
>time to roll"), all the women have a "Stone Cold Heart" and there are so
>many riffs from Betts' glory days with the Allman Brothers Band (slide
>guitarist Warren Haynes pairs him in just the old way, and percussionist
>Butch Trucks is a "special guest") that the album becomes a kind of
>guessing game. The best moments are the guitar breaks, of course, but
>even they sound too familiar. If there weren't a track called "Duane's
>Tune," a PR man would've invented it.
>
>DICKEY BETTS - "Pattern Disruptive" (CBS 44289). Appearing Sunday at the
>Bayou.
>//
>
>
Subject:
Re: a health related request (0ABB)
Date:
Thu, 11 Jun 1998 08:55:34 -0700
From:
Ray Hutchison
Oh, Pete. I had surgery last week for a melanoma on my leg, something
which has been there for a while but stupidly I did not have checked out
until last month. This was large, I have the stiches out this afternoon,
along with the followup report from the pathologist. Scared isn't the
right word, you know--it's panic and terror and everything else. We're
fortunate that doctors know how to treat all of these things much better
than they did even five years ago; I hope that all goes well for your
family. Best, Ray.
On Wed, 10 Jun 1998, Peter D Fetzek wrote:
> My oldest son Gabe went to the doctor today to have some lumps in his
> armpits investigated. He's the same son who lost a testicle last Dec on
> account of a tumor. That one turned out to be non-cancerous, but it scared
> us pretty bad. Now this has me pretty scared, too. I'm really hoping the
> first pathologist was right.....Anyway, any of your prayers/thoughts/vibes
> or whatever you do to Whomever is appreciated.
>
>
> thanks,
> pete
>
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ray Hutchison
Professor and Chair Office: (920) 465-2355
Urban and Regional Studies Home: (920) 465-8346
University of Wisconsin-Green Bay Fax: (920) 465-2791
Green Bay, Wisconsin 54311-7001
Subject:
Victor Wooten
Date:
Thu, 11 Jun 1998 09:29:12 -0400
From:
Richard Dean Delker
>
>Victor Wooten is an amazing bassist who plays with Bela Fleck &
>The Flecktones. I HIGHly recommend seeing this band to all you
>peach-heads who have yet to witness these guys live. Amazing!
>(Did I say they are amazing? :)
>
> Regards,
> Nick
>
Till you can arrange that I have a good quality tape of Bela Fleck
and the Flecktones live in Atlanta last year where Otiel made a
guest appearance and the both of them were smokin'. I would gladly
run off 5 or so copies for folks, but be advised my tape is edited
down to the tunes that feature the bass most prominently.
The entire concert is great, and the audience is vocal, appreciative,
and responsive so if you want the entire concert experience on tape
a kind soul on this list supplied it to me originally and will probably
speak up. I edited it because I play bass, and while I recognize the
tremendous talent it takes to make a horn produce some of the sounds
it does in jazz, I just don't like squeaky horns, and life is too
short to change now.
BTW, I agree with an earlier assessment that Otiel tends to be more
melodic and Victor does more stacatto stuff. Its probably on the
instructional tape that was first mentioned but Victor does this
thing with the side of his thumb where he hits the string on the
way down, catches it again on the way up, then hits again or pops
with a finger or something. The end result is lightning fast machine
gun triplets that blow me away every time.
Keep the peach,
Dickey Dean Delker
Subject:
Re: ALLMAN Digest - 10 Jun 1998 - Special issue
Date:
Thu, 11 Jun 1998 09:49:21 -0400
From:
Ron Everhart
OK, I'll play,
>>>what does everyone think will be....
a) first song played on summer tour?????
b) biggest surprise they pull out for summer tour?????????<<<
a) "Black Hearted Woman." With that really kickin' jam at the end a la
3/13/98. Just to WOW the crowd from the very start and establish that this
is an all-night train that CANNOT be slowed! (Plus it's always still light
at th sheds at 8:15, so it's important to GRAB those lawn-sitters
attention!)
b) "Les Brers." The surprise will be "Little Martha", played either as a
"Franklin's Tower" - type mellow jammin' intro to Les Brers or played in its
entirety as an interlude during the song by the entire band (a la 3/14/98).
Hey, a man can hope, can't he?
Oh, yeah, Fox, Red Rocks, yadda yadda...
I want to hear some onlist excitement from some more folks going to
Friday June 19 @ Great Woods (opening show of the summer tour! Sold out
yet? Wow!)
Saturday June 20 Saratoga Springs, NY Saratoga Performing Arts Center
(my bud gerry donnelley usually hits this every year -- Heiman, ya goin'?
You lucky --)
Sunday June 21 Hartford, CT
(Cool -- a double dip for y'all Bostonians, eh?) and
"Tuesday June 23 Cleveland, OH Nautica Stage
Wednesday June 24 Cleveland, OH Nautica Stage"
WOW!!! The two night run! Cleveland and its historically great taste in rock
and roll...
Just a little cheerleadin' afore I leave town for the weekend tonite (work
and in-laws); hope 'twas OK.
ron "I'm experimenting with nicknames: "poi dog" or "buzzy boy?" e.
NP: ABB 7/26/70 (Is there a copy of this anywhere that sounds as good as
9/16/71?)
Subject:
ALLMAN Digest - 11 Jun 1998 - Special issue
Date:
Thu, 11 Jun 1998 14:30:23 -0400
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Subject:
ALLMAN Digest - 11 Jun 1998 - Special issue
Date:
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There are 15 messages totalling 820 lines in this issue.
Topics in this special issue:
1. [Fwd: searching for a song] (7)
2. ABB Flashback: Dickey and "Pattern Disruptive"-1988
3. ALLMAN Digest - 10 Jun 1998 - Special issue (5)
4. Red Rocks tix, TM etc. (No ABB - sorry -- feel free to hit delete)
5. Foxie Site Survey
Subject:
[Fwd: searching for a song]
Date:
Thu, 11 Jun 1998 10:06:37 -0400
From:
Jesse Needleman
I'm baffled, can anyone else help out?
Subject:
searching for a song
Date:
Thu, 11 Jun 1998 01:52:10 EDT
From:
Dinky182@aol.com
To:
needlem@fas.harvard.edu
hi-
i hope you can help me find the allman brothers song with the phrase "last
train to jacksonville" or something similar. my dad told me about this song
that he loves, but he can't find it on any album. i'd like to surprise him
with the song for father's day. i appreciate your time.
-jennifer
p.s. i know it was an earlier song of theirs maybe in the '70s.
Subject:
Re: ABB Flashback: Dickey and "Pattern Disruptive"-1988
Date:
Thu, 11 Jun 1998 10:38:59 -0400
From:
"Marshall, Steven A (Steven)** CTR **"
What I MEANT to say.... was that the old rust inhibitor must have gotten
into her brain cells..
>By Eve Zibart
>Friday, October 28, 1988 ; Page N23
>>his new album "Pattern Disruptive" is a soulless combination of
>trite lyrics and pointy-toed road band -- REO meets ZZ Top.
Soul-less? She wouldn't know soul if she was walkin' on it. Let's
see... 1988 - oh yah, a BANNER year for soul releases....
>
>The hooks are cut to order ("I've been shaken, rattled, and now it's
>time to roll"), all the women have a "Stone Cold Heart" and there are so
>many riffs from Betts' glory days with the Allman Brothers Band (slide
>guitarist Warren Haynes pairs him in just the old way, and percussionist
>Butch Trucks is a "special guest") that the album becomes a kind of
>guessing game.
??huh?? Yah, darn, this new album is just so reminiscent of great ABB
stuff, what a disappointment! I dont 'GET' the guessing game comment.
> The best moments are the guitar breaks, of course, but
>even they sound too familiar. If there weren't a track called "Duane's
>Tune," a PR man would've invented it.
Yah, right, okay.
Well nevermind THAT mess, Pattern Disruptive is easily my second
favorite Dickey 'solo' effort (after Highway Call of course) and sounds
real good played loud. I wouldn't mind hearing the ABB trot out Lover
Man someday...
If ever there was an album which clearly pointed the way to what was to
come,
this is the one, with Warren, Johnny Neel and Matt Abts figuring
prominently.
>
Guess 'you know you're an Allmaniac when' you get huffy over a ten year
old review...
Subject:
Re: ALLMAN Digest - 10 Jun 1998 - Special issue
Date:
Wed, 10 Jun 1998 22:54:57 -0400
From:
"Jimmy W. Arnold"
The web site for the Fabulous Fox Theater in Atlanta is:
"www.accessatlanta.com/life/music/fox.html"
Look forward to seeing some of you in September!!!!
Jimmy
Subject:
Re: ALLMAN Digest - 10 Jun 1998 - Special issue
Date:
Thu, 11 Jun 1998 10:52:07 -0400
From:
Shannon Carroll
>
>ron "I'm experimenting with nicknames: "poi dog" or "buzzy boy?" e.
you're b.b. to me, bay-bee
:-)
shannon "how red are those red rocks, really?"
Subject:
Re: [Fwd: searching for a song]
Date:
Thu, 11 Jun 1998 11:09:40 EDT
From:
RAB@AOL.COM
> "last train to jacksonville" or something similar.
Maybe Stand Back? "Put her on a train to the Everglades..."
Subject:
Re: ALLMAN Digest - 10 Jun 1998 - Special issue
Date:
Thu, 11 Jun 1998 11:09:05 -0400
From:
"John V. Curatolo"
At 9:49 AM -0400 6/11/98, Ron Everhart wrote:
>I want to hear some onlist excitement from some more folks going to
>Friday June 19 @ Great Woods (opening show of the summer tour! Sold out
>yet? Wow!)
How about some excitement from someone going to 6/27 at Montage Mountain,
with a warm up Friday night with a little power trio called Gov't Mule!!!
Oh, yeah!!!!!! Can't believe it's summer tour time already!!
John
Subject:
Re: [Fwd: searching for a song]
Date:
Thu, 11 Jun 1998 10:11:20 -0500
From:
Barry Jorden
> > "last train to jacksonville" or something similar.
>
How about "Take the last train to Clarksville..."? That's the Monkees...
Subject:
Re: Red Rocks tix, TM etc. (No ABB - sorry -- feel free to hit delete)
Date:
Thu, 11 Jun 1998 11:12:23 -0400
From:
Ron Everhart
Sory for all the chatter, but I must say that between my experience two
years ago getting Pearl jam tix, this thing with Red Rocks (I'm sure there's
nothing to worry about -- my sis handles credit cards refunds/complaints at
a middle management level and if you get screwed, the ticket company will
get TORPEDOED), and getting tix from GDTS Too (which I'll not go into right
now because I don't want to be negative, I'm all for their success,and I
have imposed a cooling-off period before I'm willing to talk about it :~)
(How's that, Jay? Your kind attitude and well-reasoned letter generated kind
feelings and restraint in turn, eh? I'm...learning...) in conjunction with
the nothing-in-it-for-them-but-some-extra-work TM cooperation with ABB
management on Fox tickets and Beacon tickets, PLUS a run of genuine rewards
for simply showing up on time to buy tickets and getting great seats at my
local TM outlet have led me once again to question the general TM bashing
hereabouts.
It's alot like hating Ma Bell in the 60's. TM doesn't set prices for shows,
like me and everyone else they charge for their services what the market
will bear, they're generally responsive to legit complaints, you have to be
a DISHONEST employee to scam the upfront seats, and the system, imperfect
though it is, is somewhat egalitarian in its distribution of tickets (a real
pain to "real fans of _____ [fill in the band]).
furthermore, at least here in Charlotte, I know as a FACT that TM has
generally been allied with the fans against some of the
heavy-handed,gestapo-like tactics of bothe the management of Blockbuster
Pavilion and the Charlotte-Meclklenburg Police Department. (Any of y'all at
the last couple Dead shows in charlotte remembr the helicopters, the mass
arrests,etc? The way THAT was shaking down on the INside was TM and the
Coliseum authority and the band management versus the cops and the City
Council.)
It's politically correct to bash TM if you're a music fan, of course. It's
also natural to assume when big blocks of good seats are held up or out of
the onsale (and often wind up in the hands of scalpers) that that's some
evil corporate TM scam. Aside from crooks like the guy in upstate NY,
generally speaking those are held out by the promoter and the band, and
often get distributed to, oh, maybe roadies,lower level management etc, as
comps,then those underpaid folk turn around and generate some off-the-books
income with 'em. (At least that's where the big money scalper types who have
BLOCKS of seats up frontand who I trust to tell me straight say hey get 'em.
Fascinating business...) (You sports people think of this analogy: how
college hoops coaches pay their second mortgage by seling their great final
4 seats to scalpers.)
So, if you want to blame someone for TM's near monopoly on ticket sales in
many parts of the country, I suggest you blame:
1) Capitalism.
2) The management of your local venues, PARTICULARLY those owned by the
city,county or state, for their "easiest is best" approach to ticket sales.
A mix of ticket agencies is a desirable thing, IMHO, and where the rubber
meets the road is where the contracts are signed and,more to the point,
where citizens DEMAND that their governments act in a manner that's socially
constructive, and not simply easy and expedient.
Just my .02 worth/attempt to raise the level of this NEVERENDING gripe above
"TM sucks." No offense to anyone whose opinion I may seem to disagree with
(happily, I think this would be a couple of the nicest people on this list.)
ron "poi dog" e.
still playing: 7/26/70
Subject:
Re: ALLMAN Digest - 10 Jun 1998 - Special issue
Date:
Thu, 11 Jun 1998 00:16:19 -0400
From:
"Jimmy W. Arnold"
More info on the Fox:
Atlanta's Fox Theatre, originally the Yaarab Temple Shrine Mosque, was
designed in the late 1920's as headquarters for a 5,000-member Shriners
organization. It was a beautifully outlandish, opulent, grandiose monument
to the heady excesses of the pre-crash 1920's, a mosque-like structure
complete with minarets, onion domes, and an interior decor which was even
more lavish than its facade.
Entering the huge auditorium, an early reviewer for the Atlanta Journal
described "a picturesque and almost disturbing grandeur beyond
imagination." Visitors encountered an indoor Arabian courtyard with a sky
full of flickering stars and magically drifting clouds; a spectacular
striped canopy overhanging the balconies; stage curtains depicting mosques
and Moorish rules in hand-sewn sequins and rhinestones. The interior was a
masterpiece of trompe l'oeil: false beams, false balconies, false tents,
ornate grillwork hiding air conditioning and heating ducts. Virtually every
practical feature was disguised with artistic fantasy.
Detailing and furnishing were equally ornate. Nothing -no space, no
furniture, no harware- escaped the gilt, the tile, the geometric design.
Mens' and ladies' lounges, broom closets, telephone booths were all
emblazoned with intricate plaster, bronze and painted detail.
Yet for all this seeming excess, The Fox retained a subtlety of style and a
sense of tastefulness. As rich as it was in ornamentation, it never
appeared overstated.
The Fox stands today as a fiercly protected landmark and a nationally
acclaimed theater; having survived depression, mortgage forclosure,
bankruptcy, competition, television, real estate development, and above
all, age.
Later,
Jimmy
Subject:
Re: [Fwd: searching for a song]
Date:
Thu, 11 Jun 1998 11:37:59 -0500
From:
Peter D Fetzek
On Thu, 11 Jun 1998 RAB@aol.com wrote:
> > "last train to jacksonville" or something similar.
>
> Maybe Stand Back? "Put her on a train to the Everglades..."
>
It's not "last train to Clarksville"? is it. That's a different
group....
pete
Subject:
Re: ALLMAN Digest - 10 Jun 1998 - Special issue
Date:
Thu, 11 Jun 1998 12:57:39 EDT
From:
Chriss785@AOL.COM
<>
And the fire that destroyed the buildings next to it a year or two ago.
Chris
Subject:
Re: [Fwd: searching for a song]
Date:
Thu, 11 Jun 1998 18:30:20 -0300
From:
Eduworks
Take the Last Train to Clarksville ?
Davey Jones, Peter Tork, Michael Nesmith and ?
AKA the Monkeys
Hmmmmm......... Greg and Michael Nesmith are cousins if memory serves me
correctly and he is a cowriter of Hey Hey We're The Monkeys
Peter D Fetzek wrote:
>
> On Thu, 11 Jun 1998 RAB@aol.com wrote:
>
> > > "last train to jacksonville" or something similar.
> >
> > Maybe Stand Back? "Put her on a train to the Everglades..."
> >
>
> It's not "last train to Clarksville"? is it. That's a different
> group....
>
> pete
Subject:
Re: [Fwd: searching for a song]
Date:
Thu, 11 Jun 1998 14:00:55 -0400
From:
"Mills, Ralph"
How could you forget Mickey Dolenz the drummer, well, the supposed
drummer...
> ----------
> From: Eduworks[SMTP:eduworks@NS.SYMPATICO.CA]
> Reply To: eduworks@ns.sympatico.ca
> Sent: Thursday, June 11, 1998 5:30 PM
> To: ALLMAN@NETSPACE.ORG
> Subject: Re: [Fwd: searching for a song]
>
> Take the Last Train to Clarksville ?
>
> Davey Jones, Peter Tork, Michael Nesmith and ?
>
> AKA the Monkeys
>
>
> Hmmmmm......... Greg and Michael Nesmith are cousins if memory serves
> me
> correctly and he is a cowriter of Hey Hey We're The Monkeys
>
>
>
> Peter D Fetzek wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 11 Jun 1998 RAB@aol.com wrote:
> >
> > > > "last train to jacksonville" or something similar.
> > >
> > > Maybe Stand Back? "Put her on a train to the Everglades..."
> > >
> >
> > It's not "last train to Clarksville"? is it. That's a different
> > group....
> >
> > pete
>
Subject:
Re: [Fwd: searching for a song]
Date:
Thu, 11 Jun 1998 13:54:17 -0500
From:
Brian Love
The song was not an Allman Brothers song, but it was on Gregg Allman's live
album in 1974. The song was "Are You Lonely For Me, Baby. I can't remember
the exact words, but it's something like "Last train from Jacksonville,
Gotta be on it, baby, I know you will." It's been 20 years or so since I've
heard it, but that's the song.
Brian
-----Original Message-----
From: Jesse Needleman
To: ALLMAN@NETSPACE.ORG
Date: Thursday, June 11, 1998 9:25 AM
Subject: [Fwd: searching for a song]
>I'm baffled, can anyone else help out?
Subject:
Foxie Site Survey
Date:
Thu, 11 Jun 1998 13:28:25 -0500
From:
donjoni@USIT.NET
Folks,
Just got back from Atlanta - supercomm trade show and all that bis rot.
Cruise this http://www.placestostay.com/atlanta-georgianterrace/
This place is across the street facing the FOX entrance. Weekend rates etc
404-897-1991 is da fone nr of da hotel. How duz sitting on this porch
before the show sound? The daz Inn is next door. So whos booking
the largest suite fer da party?
Other endyouendoh! www.insitemag.com a local entertainment rag like
creative loaffin or sun bums. Two or three blocks east to Piedmont
and north for about 2/3 miles just north of smith's pub Fatt Matt's
rib shack fer dakind of rubs you wish you had.
Peace
Donnie
Subject:
ALLMAN Digest - 11 Jun 1998 - Special issue
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There are 10 messages totalling 586 lines in this issue.
Topics in this special issue:
1. [Fwd: searching for a song]
2. Red Rocks tix, TM etc. (No ABB - sorry -- feel free to hi
3. 57 Channels (or 5!)
4. Maxel vs. TDK (2)
5. Red Rocks tix,TM etc. (No ABB - sorry -- feel free to hi
6. april/may seed
7. New Books
8. Openers
9. Tinsley Ellis article (ref ABB & Tom Dowd)
Subject:
Re: [Fwd: searching for a song]
Date:
Thu, 11 Jun 1998 13:51:14 -0500
From:
"Terry E. Allbritton"
Brian,
Whoa! What a memory!! I just pulled that '74 LP, and You Are Absolutely
Correct, Sir! All I can say is that you must have avoided the, er, well, the
"excesses" of that era. Way to go!
Particulars: "The Gregg Allman Tour w/ his special guests COWBOY/Boyer &
Talton, and accompanied by a 24 Piece Orchestra," Capricorn # 2C0141 (1974).
"Are You Lonely For Me Baby," by Bert Berns, Web IV Music Co., BMI. Killer
gospel-style backing vocals by, most likely, Annie Sutton, Erin Dickins, and
Lynn Rubin (where are THEY now? Hmmm....)
I remember seeing this tour in Beantown, '73 or '74. Mostly, I remember
bitching about the huge rise in concert ticket prices: "$8.50????? That's
highway robbery!! Well, yeah, of course we're gonna go!" Deja vu, all over
again, indeed.
Good show, as I recall. The Music Hall or the Orpheum?
Terry
Brian Love wrote:
> The song was not an Allman Brothers song, but it was on Gregg Allman's live
> album in 1974. The song was "Are You Lonely For Me, Baby. I can't remember
> the exact words, but it's something like "Last train from Jacksonville,
> Gotta be on it, baby, I know you will." It's been 20 years or so since I've
> heard it, but that's the song.
> Brian
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jesse Needleman
> To: ALLMAN@NETSPACE.ORG
> Date: Thursday, June 11, 1998 9:25 AM
> Subject: [Fwd: searching for a song]
>
> >I'm baffled, can anyone else help out?
Subject:
Re: Red Rocks tix, TM etc. (No ABB - sorry -- feel free to hi
Date:
Thu, 11 Jun 1998 16:11:58 EDT
From:
Skaidawg@AOL.COM
In a message dated 98-06-11 11:22:07 EDT, you write:
<< So, if you want to blame someone for TM's near monopoly on ticket sales in
many parts of the country, I suggest you blame:
1) Capitalism. >>
I thiink my main complaint with TM is not the service that they provide, they
certainly do a decent enough job, but the fact that there is NO competition.
I DO have a problem with buying a ticket....AT THE GATE...and still paying a
buttload of service and handling and bullcrap charges. And yes that is how I
would define those charges.
I got no beef with someone out to make a buck through legitimate means. But,
there is a certain amount of collusion that TM spreads around. When GDTS said
they were gonna sell their own tix, TM told venues that booking the Dead would
mean losing other acts. That can't be legal -- can it?
Lexus makes a good car. They charge a lot for it. If I can't afford or am
unwilling to pay that much for it, I can always go buy something from a
competitior. That's fair. But if the only car company out there was Lexus
(or Toyota, I guess would be more accurate), then yeah, I gotta problem with
that. It's the same thing with these electricities de-regulations going on.
People don't care that they might not save any money...they just seem to want
to pick on their own who they buy from. It was a big problem with the early
HMO's and they have responded by allowing patients to pick their own docs to a
certain extent.
Anyway....I ain't changing the world and neither is Ron and probably neither
are you...so I guess it doesn't really matter in the long run. : ) Just
wanted to say my thing.
Dave
Subject:
57 Channels (or 5!)
Date:
Thu, 11 Jun 1998 21:10:15 +0100
From:
Graham Crawford
A quick summary of things that may be of interest to this list
in the coming week on British TV & radio. I will be taping
those marked *** to start with....
TV first
*** Thurs 18th - Channel 4 - Dr John special - looks like documentary-type
prog, probably with a mix of chat & music - unclear as to whether
any live/unreleased
*** Friday 19th - C4 - TFI Friday - Black Sabbath (!) live in the studio
Radio shows
Saturday 13th R1 3.30pm Johnnie Walker show features exclusive interview
with Brian Wilson of Beach Boys fame
*** R1 8.00pm - James Taylor In Concert, recorded Nottingham, UK February
R3 11.30pm - New York Jazz Festival feature incl McCoy Tyner, Cecil Taylor,
Joe Henderson
Sunday 14th R1 10.00pm - Jesus & Mary CHain In Concert
Thursday 18th R2 9.00pm Paul Jones R&B show, live session from Jive Aces
Subject:
Re: Maxel vs. TDK
Date:
Thu, 11 Jun 1998 21:21:08 +0100
From:
Graham Crawford
Dean wrote;
Subject: Re: Maxel vs. TDK
>>>When you consider that alot of vintage shows (60's, 70's) taken from
audience tapes probably have upper end freq's around 6 Khz, it's really way
overkill to pick and choose the "best" audio tape, anyone will do fine to
reproduce crummy sounding (the sonics, not the performance) shows.
GRC - ...which is fine if you're just going to duplicate them once, but if
everyone in a taping chain uses the best tapes, the losses are minimised,
and the crummy tape survives a lot better. You never know, the tapes you
hear which only go up to 6k might have lost the high end because of
the people who didn't use the best tape........
Regards, Graham
Subject:
Re: Maxel vs. TDK
Date:
Thu, 11 Jun 1998 21:20:11 +0100
From:
Graham Crawford
Skaidawg@AOL.COM wrote ;
>>>It's funny...I have Surrealistic Pillow on vinyl. When I play "Embryonic
Journey" on the record, it sounds more....THERE. I don't know how to explain
it other then that. I borrowed the cd and played it on the same stereo and it
wasn't the same. Of course, the snaps and pops weren't there...but the vinyl
seemed to have more volume. And by that, I mean more space...not louder.
GRC - Yup, the vinyl fills the room a lot better, while the CD sort of skulks
around in the speakers, without actually leaving them very much?
Not surprising really, when you consider what the original tape went through
to make to the CD - i.e. take original analogue tape, copy it onto digital tape,
passing through an analogue - digital convertor along the way which chops up
the original signal 40,000 times per second. Maybe another digital tape is
cloned from this one, in order to add index points, etc, or compile a
production master with any bonus tracks, etc, press up the CDs,
then it goes through another process of conversion within your home CD
player, this time a digital - analogue convertor wherein the 40,000 impulses
per second are re-constituted into something resembling the original signal.
In contrast, whatever losses & distortions occur in the analogue (vinyl)
chain, it's always an analogue signal, and undergoes no conversion along
the way, other than converting from magnetic impulses on tape to
magnetic impulses within the cutting head, etc. Unless of course, the
record company in its infinite wisdom has decided to cut the vinyl as
a 'digitally remastered' edition, i.e. from a digital tape.....
Regards, Graham
Subject:
Re: Red Rocks tix,TM etc. (No ABB - sorry -- feel free to hi
Date:
Thu, 11 Jun 1998 13:40:50 -0800
From:
Denise Halbe
SF's Maritime Hall, formerly Family Dog Presents - now 2B1presents
decided to[naturally, this is SF,] buck the system
and created their own outletting.
WITHOUT surcharges. If it's $15 bucks its 15 bucks. period.
[Nice tickets for souvenirs too-
usually have the poster art on em.]
Tix can be got thru ticket web and local outlets [music stores etc]
as well as charging by phone directly.
Pretty cool deal. But they have the mindset for that -
it's like facing the wrong way in the elevator- takes a
different sort with some shutzpah to go against the [high] tide.
This reminds me of a time...
I went to a Jerry Seltzer Roast benefit concert for Thunder Road
[teen program for the Richmond/Oakland area] a few years back
at Bimbo's 365 Club in North Beach.
Jerry was the owner of Bass Tickets here in the Bay Area.
Bozz Skaggs, Etta James headlined. They showed some entertaining
videos of Jerry and had him and various celebrities come up
to verbally incinerate 'poor' Jerry. Very enjoyable- all of a good humor of course.
Followed by a silent auction of nifty memorabelia, Dead [leather] jacket,
posters, wine...Hewey Lewis was there hanging...cain't remember who else.
Etta didn't look very well and did a VERY short set, which disapointed me.
Boz was way cool.
~from the cabin on the hill
I((((O))))I((((O))))I((((O))))I((((O)))I(((O)))I((((O)
> From: Skaidawg@AOL.COM
> To: ALLMAN@NETSPACE.ORG
> Subject: Re: Red Rocks tix,TM etc. (No ABB - sorry -- feel free to hi
> Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 16:11:58 EDT
>
>In a message dated 98-06-11 11:22:07 EDT, you write:
>
><< So, if you want to blame someone for TM's near monopoly on ticket sales in
> many parts of the country, I suggest you blame:
> 1) Capitalism. >>
>
>
>I thiink my main complaint with TM is not the service that they provide, they
>certainly do a decent enough job, but the fact that there is NO competition.
>I DO have a problem with buying a ticket....AT THE GATE...and still paying a
>buttload of service and handling and bullcrap charges. And yes that is how I
>would define those charges.
>
>I got no beef with someone out to make a buck through legitimate means. But,
>there is a certain amount of collusion that TM spreads around. When GDTS said
>they were gonna sell their own tix, TM told venues that booking the Dead would
>mean losing other acts. That can't be legal -- can it?
>
>Lexus makes a good car. They charge a lot for it. If I can't afford or am
>unwilling to pay that much for it, I can always go buy something from a
>competitior. That's fair. But if the only car company out there was Lexus
>(or Toyota, I guess would be more accurate), then yeah, I gotta problem with
>that. It's the same thing with these electricities de-regulations going on.
>People don't care that they might not save any money...they just seem to want
>to pick on their own who they buy from. It was a big problem with the early
>HMO's and they have responded by allowing patients to pick their own docs to a
>certain extent.
>
>Anyway....I ain't changing the world and neither is Ron and probably neither
>are you...so I guess it doesn't really matter in the long run. : ) Just
>wanted to say my thing.
>
>
>Dave
>
Subject:
april/may seed
Date:
Thu, 11 Jun 1998 17:26:44 -0400
From:
TOM VITALE
is everyone's copy have drop outs on the gaf gig? so far, i've noticed it on the 12/29/97 dub. it happens several times.
grinnin',
tom vitale
Subject:
New Books
Date:
Thu, 11 Jun 1998 17:40:43 -0400
From:
Daryl Mann
I dropped into my local book superstore today after work and saw a
terrific new tome called, `Unknown Legends Of Rock'. It would have
been worth it just for the *great* chapter on Arthur Lee and Love
(IMHO the most criminally underappreciated band in the history of
Rock) but the book also included sections on Sandy Denny and the
Hampton Grease Band. Duane loved the HGB so much he got Bill
Graham to book them at the Fillmore East with the Mothers. Rhino's
book division (!) has also thoughtfully reissued Brian Epstein's
auto-bio on the Beatles, `Cellarfull Of Noise'. There is also a
new book which chronicles every Pink Floyd gig. I could drop a
thousand just in the music section alone; I'm so proud that I
have willpower. :-)
Anyway, I wanted to mention that in the just-released Dead book,
`Tapers' Compendium', Gregg's vocals on 12/31/73 are referred to
as a `foppish, falsetto shriek'. I find this hilarious. Whoever
thought that up I'd like to buy a brew. I'm expecting this from
the `Shroom Express' shortly so I'll be able to experience Gregg's
`foppish falsetto shrieking' for myself.
Later! Daryl.
NW: `Beyond The Valley Of The Dolls' (1970)
Subject:
Openers
Date:
Thu, 11 Jun 1998 17:46:36 -0400
From:
Lana Michelizzi
Howdy boys and girls,
Here's an update on openers for the Allman Brother Band this summer: The
opening act for the first leg of the summer tour is Robert Bradley's
Blackwater Surprise. Steve Earle will be running with the ABB from the 2nd
Great Woods show to Detroit, Milwaukee is "An Evening With ...", John
Hammond hitches up with the tour from Minneapolis through Red Rocks, and
Sister Hazel fills the opening slot from JAX to the end of the summer tour.
Sister Hazel was previously announced as coming along with the Brothers and
Robert Bradley's Blackwater Surprise to Charlotte, but that's changed. The
third band on that bill will be announced soon.
Just think ... The Summer of Peach & Love starts one week from tomorrow
mmmm mmmmm mmmmmm
take care and know that -you- are loved,
Lana
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Operations Manager Phone: 919.786.5137
HAHT Software, Inc. Fax: 919.786.5115
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Subject:
Tinsley Ellis article (ref ABB & Tom Dowd)
Date:
Thu, 11 Jun 1998 15:05:51 -0700
From:
Greg
This article has references to ABB, Tom Dowd,Chuck Leavell which I
thought might be of interest to ABB fans.
>From the SJ Mercury News.
As blues gets hotter and
hotter, this guitarist keeps
rising
BY ALAN SCULLEY
Special to the Mercury News
TINSLEY Ellis is no newcomer to the blues-rock
scene. During the
past decade he's recorded five CDs as a solo
artist for Alligator
Records, the nation's leading independent blues
label. Before that he
led a band called the Heartfixers that recorded
two albums and
became one of the most popular blues-rock acts in
Atlanta and the
Southeast.
But Ellis, who opens a three-night run in the Bay
Area tonight at J.J.'s
in San Jose, found he still had a lot to learn
when he made his fifth
solo CD, ``Fire It Up,'' which was produced by
the legendary Tom
Dowd.
``He's like a professor or something,'' Ellis
says about Dowd, who in
his 50 years of producing has worked with legends
like Eric Clapton,
Ray Charles, the Allman Brothers and Lynyrd
Skynyrd.
``I learned so much about what I should do and
shouldn't do,
musically and vocally, songwriting -- invaluable
experience,'' Ellis
says.
``One of the things I'd never thought about was
what keys to sing in,''
Ellis says, recalling an example of what Dowd
told him. `` `Don't sing
it in this key, please. Sing it closer to these
keys.' Or, `Here's your
highest note.' The old thing they used to do in
music school was
la-la-la-la, higher, higher and then they go `OK,
that's your highest
note.' Anything over that fails to be pleasing.
So things like that I've
really learned.''
The fact that Ellis was able to get Dowd to
produce, however, was
evidence that the Atlanta-based guitarist had
already been doing many
things right. And his songwriting, singing and
his considerable skills as
a guitarist have all improved with each of his
four previous solo CDs
-- ``Georgia Blue'' (1988), ``Fanning The
Flames'' (1989), ``Trouble
Time'' (1992) and ``Storm Warning'' (1994).
Worked with the best
But Ellis says Dowd not only produced his
best-sounding CD in
``Fire It Up,'' he got some of the best
performances Ellis had ever
committed to tape in a studio.
``First of all, just having him there gave me a
sense of confidence that
he even accepted the project,'' Ellis says. ``I
felt like . . . I'd taken a
step up, at least in the recording line of my
work. It's separate from
my touring, of course. And he had a certain way
of prefacing things
with, `I used to tell Eric (Clapton) to do this,'
or `I remember when
Duane (Allman) and Dicky (Betts) were working
this thing out,' or `I
sat on Ray Charles' piano bench and told him. . .
.'
``So he would preface things like that and all of
a sudden my ears
would perk up. Also, he knew when to coax me, to
praise me and he
knew when to turn on the heat, too. He really
kept me on my toes.''
``Fire It Up'' represented a considerable
departure in Ellis' usual
approach to making records. Instead of recording
live in the studio,
the songs were more carefully assembled with
plenty of overdubs
used to create a definitive performance. While
pleased with ``Fire It
Up,'' Ellis hesitated to call it his best effort
yet, especially compared to
``Storm Warning,'' a CD that earned him wide
press coverage.
``I still find myself putting on `Storm Warning'
when I want to hear
that real smoky blues sound,'' Ellis says. ``
`Storm Warning' was
totally a live album. A few of the vocals changed
and Chuck Leavell
(whose credits include the Rolling Stones and
Allman Brothers) came
in at the end and added a little bit of
keyboards. The new album is
more like a posed photograph. Everything is
gotten in place and you
spend a lot of time getting it there, whereas
`Storm Warning' was
more like sports photography. It captures a
moment.''
Ellis, 40, has also made an effort to refocus his
place within the music
scene. Though often touted as a bluesman, Ellis'
music has always had
a strong element of rock. ``Fired Up,'' in fact,
is arguably his most
rock-oriented effort to date. The image of Ellis
as a bluesman hasn't
always set well with blues purists, and as it
turns out, Ellis hasn't been
completely comfortable with that image, either.
``It's OK if you want to call me that, but I
don't want to call myself
that,'' Ellis says. ``It would be a little
precocious of me, especially with
people like John Lee Hooker and B.B. King and Dr.
John, who have
labored an entire life with this industry and
this genre, it would be hard
for me to just lump myself with them.
``And also, it would do them a little bit of a
disservice. If I can get up
on a soapbox for a second, it seems to me we
don't have any real
royalty in this country, no king or queen. Maybe
our royalty is our
roots performers like B.B. King, Doc Watson and
Ray Charles and
people like that. . . . Those are the people who
created blues, jazz,
folk. And for me to lump myself in with them --
hmmmm, I don't think
so. I think I'm going to just say that rock `n'
roll is my heritage, but
blues is my great love.
``When I first came to Alligator Records 10 years
ago, almost to this
day, and played Chicago for the first time, boy,
was I scared,'' Ellis
recalls. ``And it was people like (Alligator
recording artists) Lonnie
Brooks and his band and family and Koko Taylor
who really said,
`Tinsley Ellis is all right.' And they let me get
up and play with them.
Blues on the upswing
``So it's been kind of a long hard climb to the
middle.''
The careers of blues veterans and the recent
resurgence the genre has
enjoyed with the success of artists like Jonny
Lang (who covered an
Ellis song, ``A Quitter Never Wins'' on his hit
debut CD ``Lie To
Me'') and Kenny Wayne Shepherd, are very much on
Ellis' mind
during the interview.
He speaks excitedly about the first time he saw
B.B. King, as a
teenager growing up in the Miami area, and the
time he saw the late
Howlin' Wolf open for King a short time later.
Then his thoughts turn
to the meager existence most of the blues
pioneers led as they carved
out the style today's musicians play.
``It's just a drag that guys like Howlin' Wolf
and Muddy Waters --
again: our royalty -- are not able to enjoy the
fruits of the trees they
planted. . . . Because you've got people playing
blues now who are
teenagers, and they're riding around in tour
buses,'' Ellis says.
``Now when I saw Howlin' Wolf, they got out of a
station wagon.
This tour bus thing, this is a recent addition.
B.B King has had one for
a long time, with the amount of people he's been
hauling around. But
the whole new blues resurgence, Muddy Waters did
not last long
enough. Howlin' Wolf, Lightnin' Hopkins -- it's
too bad they weren't
able to cash in.''
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There are 12 messages totalling 340 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. Tinsley Ellis article (ref ABB & Tom Dowd)
2. Oteil's solo release
3. Summer excitement
4. ALLMAN Digest - 10 Jun 1998 - Special issue
5. [Fwd: searching for a song]
6. Mycology (2)
7. Openers
8. GW 6/19
9.
10. Denver baseball
11. Cabinets
Subject:
Re: Tinsley Ellis article (ref ABB & Tom Dowd)
Date:
Thu, 11 Jun 1998 15:15:31 -0700
From:
Greg
Here is the URL for the article, appears to have come apart when I copied
it.
Greg
http://www.mercurycenter.com/premium/ent/docs/tinsley11.htm
Subject:
Oteil's solo release
Date:
Thu, 11 Jun 1998 18:48:34 -0400
From:
Lana Michelizzi
Hi again ((treasured family)) ...
Oteil extends much love to you all and wants you to know that his first
solo album, "Love of a Lifetime" is coming out July 10 on his own label,
Nile Records. "Love of a Lifetime" will only be available through
www.nilerecords.com (there's a link to it in the Friends & Family section
of Hittin' the Web). $15.98 includes shipping and handling, Visa &
Mastercard are accepted, and it'll probably take 2 - 3 weeks to receive
after it's released.
Here's a peachy little treat just for you -- Oteil will personally
autograph cds for the first 100 members of the family who mention they read
about it here or on Hittin' the Web ... that is if you don't mind that
he'll have to break the shrink wrap to do it ;-)
Oteil & the Peacemakers include: Oteil/bass, Kofi Burbridge/keys & flute,
Marcus Williams/drums, Woody Williams/drums (but not at the same time as
Marcus), Mark Kimbrell/guitar, Regi Wooten (and he would be related to who?
hmmm, t,t,t ...)/guitar, and Kebbi Williams/sax.
"Love of a Lifetime" was recorded at the Cave studio in Atlanta April 22 -
28, and May 12 - 14 this year, though Oteil has had the songs written for a
long time. One track, "Church", was written ten years ago. ARU never picked
up on it, but Oteil always kept it in mind when he was thinking of doing a
solo album. I wondered if the reason the recording was done so quickly was
that studio space was expensive. Oteil's answer? "There was no reason to
take a real long time with it. The songs were written, we all got together
and my shit was done!" ;-)
There are ten songs on "Love of a Lifetime" (the title refers to Barri,
Oteil's wife) and each are dedicated to/inspired by someone different:
1. Bass Subterranea - for Larry Graham who invented the pop/slap style of
bass. Larry used to play with Sly & the Family Stone and is now touring
with TAFKAP.
2. Barri - with love to Barri *k*
3. Butter Biscuit - pays homage to James Brown & the Meters
4. Overcast - a tribute to Jaco
5. Ankh - dedicated to ancient Egypt
6. Listen Bart - to everyone who had anything to do with the making of the
movie Blazing Saddles ... and right here, right now, I promise a free,
autographed copy of "Love of a Lifetime" to the first brother or sister who
comes up with the reason "why".
7. Monk Funk - smiles on T. Monk
8. Church - is a musical celebration of Roger Lovett, the minister who
married Barri & Oteil, and keyboardist Clayton Ivey.
9. In There Out There - embraces Oteil's parents, William and Carol Burbridge.
10. Hymn to the Nile - gotta love the mother river ... and Egypt. Did you
know that there's an ankh cross on Oteil's Modulus bass?
The painting on the cover is one Barri had painted for Oteil one birthday
by an unknown artist in Egypt ... the original is on papyrus (sp?) paper.
The rest of the album art was done by Karen Noff.
Oteil & the Peacemakers aren't planning to tour in support of this album
(hmmmmm could he already be booked for the next few months?), but they are
planning a few album release parties this summer. We'll keep you posted in
the where & whens.
And now, off to see Jimmy Connors play tennis -- and you know I'll smile
when the score includes Love ...
Peach Bewitch You,
Lana
831*B*
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Operations Manager Phone: 919.786.5137
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Subject:
Summer excitement
Date:
Thu, 11 Jun 1998 19:26:54 EDT
From:
OneWayOutx@AOL.COM
In a message dated 98-06-11 10:25:26 EDT, rdeverhart@EMAIL.MSN.COM writes:
<< I want to hear some onlist excitement from some more folks going to
Friday June 19 @ Great Woods (opening show of the summer tour! Sold out
yet? Wow!) >>
Well I'll tell ya......It's only a week away.....and I'm
cranked!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Who else on the list is going? Lets try to
get together before the show. Try and get there early, like 6ish. Try to park
in the lot to the left of the gates. I'm going to fly a 13 star American flag
above my blue Nissan truck, we can rally 'round that for starters. That is
unless someone else has another plan I don't know about yet. Just think, we
get to see the opening and closing shows of the summer tour right here in our
own back yard!!!!!!
GlennB
NP.....Liz Reed 4/20/79
Subject:
Re: ALLMAN Digest - 10 Jun 1998 - Special issue
Date:
Thu, 11 Jun 1998 19:29:05 EDT
From:
OneWayOutx@AOL.COM
In a message dated 98-06-11 10:25:26 EDT, rdeverhart@EMAIL.MSN.COM writes:
<< Sunday June 21 Hartford, CT
(Cool -- a double dip for y'all Bostonians, eh?) >>
Ron, "Y'all", and "Bostonians" don't belong in the same phrase. and that's
pronounced "Hahtfud".
GlennB
Subject:
Re: [Fwd: searching for a song]
Date:
Thu, 11 Jun 1998 19:50:19 EDT
From:
OneWayOutx@AOL.COM
Jesse, I have the album, I'll spin it for Jennifer, should I contact her
directly or do you want to arrange it?
Brian, I'm pretty sure it was the Orpheum, I remember taking pictures at that
show, although the're long gone.
GlennB
In a message dated 98-06-11 10:26:38 EDT, needlem@FAS.HARVARD.EDU writes:
<< I'm baffled, can anyone else help out?
--------------------
hi-
i hope you can help me find the allman brothers song with the phrase "last
train to jacksonville" or something similar. my dad told me about this song
that he loves, but he can't find it on any album. i'd like to surprise him
with the song for father's day. i appreciate your time.
-jennifer
p.s. i know it was an earlier song of theirs maybe in the '70s. >>
Subject:
Mycology
Date:
Thu, 11 Jun 1998 20:15:42 EDT
From:
Tom Laffey
what a shame that egos seem to have gotten in the way where song selection on
this album is concerned. I cant believe that "GAMBLERS ROLL" was not
included.
This song as much as any in the Warren/Woody era epitomized what the ABB
always stood for, nasty low down blues. What was the problem didnt Dickey
want to pay royalties to Warren for writing the song,I also find it hard to
believe that they couldnt have included "Loaded Dice" to thank Warren for his
vocal contribution to the band. Listen I appreciate Jack Oteil and the
current lineup but everyone out there knows that had it not been for the
contributions of Warren Haynes and Allen Woody I serious doubt if we would be
eagerly awaiting an ABB tour right now. Perhaps we would be seeing the GAB or
DBB in 200-300 people capacity bars. So for those true ABB fans I would like
to say for the last time thank you brothers Warren and Woody for helping to
resurect the sound and spirit that Duane had in mind in 1969 thank you for
your inspired efforts in helping to bring the music of the ABB back to the
forefront of american music and to brothers Jack and Oteil keep the fire
burning and know that your talents are appreciated and respected. Burn down
the house this summer. And of course thank you Jesus for brothers
Gregg,Dickey,Butch,Jamoe and Mark. I hope and suspect that it will be a great
summer. Sorry for the ramblin but what the hell its still america isnt it?
Subject:
Re: Openers
Date:
Thu, 11 Jun 1998 19:52:05 -0500
From:
James F Kogutkiewicz
On Thu, 11 Jun 1998, Lana Michelizzi wrote:
> Milwaukee is "An Evening With ..."
They like the place that much, 'eh? The only show on the tour without an
opener.
Feelin' pretty special,
Jim "An Evening With..." K.
No Opener, WI
Subject:
GW 6/19
Date:
Thu, 11 Jun 1998 21:13:51 EDT
From:
Adam D Kroft
<< I want to hear some onlist excitement from some more folks going to
Friday June 19 @ Great Woods (opening show of the summer tour! Sold out
yet? Wow!) >>
Well I'll tell ya......It's only a week away.....and I'm
cranked!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Who else on the list is going? Lets try to
get together before the show. Try and get there early, like 6ish. Try to park
in the lot to the left of the gates. I'm going to fly a 13 star American flag
above my blue Nissan truck, we can rally 'round that for starters. That is
unless someone else has another plan I don't know about yet. Just think, we
get to see the opening and closing shows of the summer tour right here in our
own back yard!!!!!!
GlennB
--------
Well hell, I'm gonna be there! Getting psyched...get to see the opener, the
closer, and the middle too, so it'll be interesting to hear them and how
they change or don't over the course of the summer, etc. I really feel bad
for the West Coast folks...it's kind of like being a Bulls fan, you are
psyched that things go your way spectacularly, but on the other hand you feel
bad for everyone else...so while I can't do anything about it, know that I'd
gladly give up two of these shows to you West Coasters...that said, I'm pretty
psyched that they will be here!
Glenn...sounds like a plan for a pre-show...I'll try to be there but will
have to see about work schedules and other annoyances...
-Adam
Subject:
Date:
Thu, 11 Jun 1998 21:16:57 EDT
From:
Adam D Kroft
Hi all, sorry for the email, forgot something...
Just wanted to let all you Bostonians know that Sunday 6/21, if you're not
going to Hahtfahd to see the Brothers, head over to the Hatch shell on the
Esplanade. As part of the Marshall's/Boston Globe Jazz & Blues festival,
at 3pm a free concert starts with Sonny Rollins, Ronnie Earl & others (I
don't have it right in front of me). Should be fun...
Adam
Subject:
Re: Mycology
Date:
Thu, 11 Jun 1998 21:30:03 EDT
From:
Wonwayout@AOL.COM
Great Post Tom!!!!!!
Gary
Subject:
Denver baseball
Date:
Thu, 11 Jun 1998 18:47:41 PDT
From:
Kevin Zimka
Just to follow up, I am going to buy some tickets for the Rockies-Phillies
game sunday after the 2nd ABB show at Red Rocks, please let me know if you
would like to attend
KevinZ
Subject:
Cabinets
Date:
Thu, 11 Jun 1998 22:43:24 -0400
From:
Jeff Griffin
I've got 2 real nice wood stacked cabinet assemblies from a company
called: Sorice~, PO Box 747, Nutley, NJ 07110 USA. They offer a real
nice collection of audio/video storage units which can be stacked and
combined to create different appearances for your unique requirements.
They are very handsom units in your choice of (3 shades of oak), teak
or cherry. You can choose between clear glass, smoked glass or solid
wood for doors. I suppose you could omit the doors if you want also.
They're a bit pricey, but they are attractive pieces of furniture that
would look good in almost any living space.
There is another company I have some literature on called: CAN-AM, 600
Main Street, Tonowanda, NY 14150-0888 USA or 70 Shields Court, Markham,
ON L3R 9T5, Canada. These are metal lateral file type racks in various
colors which look a bit more like office furniture, but do have higher
storage capacities. As they call it, "Serious storage for serious
collectors.
Hope this is helpful for those in need of storage.
Jeff